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The Staggering Conspiracy Behind the Consumer Culture....
« on: February 25, 2013, 06:30:02 AM »
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"We must shift America from a needs, to a desires culture," wrote Paul Mazur of Lehman Brothers. "People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old had been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America. Man's desires must overshadow his needs."
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There's A Staggering Conspiracy Behind The Rise Of Consumer Culture
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  Gus Lubin|Feb. 23, 2013, 4:17 PM|97,510|32   
 
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  consumers Consumer culture is born.Americans weren't always addicted to buying things.
Long before U.S. consumers racked up $11.3 trillion in aggregate debt, people used to save money for things they actually needed.
But in the age of plenty that followed World War I, corporations countered the threat of overproduction with a manipulative psychological strategy.
"We must shift America from a needs, to a desires culture," wrote Paul Mazur of Lehman Brothers. "People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old had been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America. Man's desires must overshadow his needs."
This conspiracy, enabled by new sophistication in advertising and supported by the government, was shockingly effective.
For more on the origins of consumer culture, we turn to the BBC's excellent documentary, "Century Of Self."
  American corporations were rich and powerful at the end of WWI, but they were worried about the danger of overproduction. What if there people acquired enough goods and simply stopped buying?   American corporations were rich and powerful at the end of WWI, but they were worried about the danger of overproduction. What if there people acquired enough goods and simply stopped buying? en.wikipedia.org  Everything from shoes to cars was promoted in functional terms, meant to appeal to a rational consumer.   Everything from shoes to cars was promoted in functional terms, meant to appeal to a rational consumer. www.imdb.com  Banker Paul Mazur of Lehman Brothers saw the way forward: "We must shift America from a needs, to a desires culture. People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old had been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America. Man's desires must overshadow his needs."   Banker Paul Mazur of Lehman Brothers saw the way forward: "We must shift America from a needs, to a desires culture. People must be trained to desire, to want new things even before the old had been entirely consumed. We must shape a new mentality in America. Man's desires must overshadow his needs." www.imdb.com  A new kind of advertising was key to this possible, and the pioneer in this field was Edward Bernays, the nephew of Sigmund Freud, who showed corporations how to make people want things they didn't need by linking mass-produced goods to unconscious desires.  A new kind of advertising was key to this possible, and the pioneer in this field was Edward Bernays, the nephew of Sigmund Freud, who showed corporations how to make people want things they didn't need by linking mass-produced goods to unconscious desires.  Bernays claims he was the first to tell car companies they could sell cars as a symbol of male sexuality.   Bernays claims he was the first to tell car companies they could sell cars as a symbol of male sexuality. www.imdb.com  He famously shattered the taboo against women smoking by persuading a group of debutantes to light up at a parade — an event he leaked to the media ahead of time with the phrase "Torches Of Freedom" — thereby linking smoking with challenging male authority.    www.imdb.com  He pioneered techniques like product placement and celebrity endorsement, relentlessly repeating the pro-consumption message.   He pioneered techniques like product placement and celebrity endorsement, relentlessly repeating the pro-consumption message. www.imdb.com  "I wonder why you all want to dress always the same, with the same hats and the same coats," said celebrity aviator Mrs Stillman in one promotional video. "I'm sure all of you are interesting and have wonderful things about you, but looking at you in the street you all look so much the same. And that's why I'm talking to you about the psychology of dress."  "I wonder why you all want to dress always the same, with the same hats and the same coats," said celebrity aviator Mrs Stillman in one promotional video. "I'm sure all of you are interesting and have wonderful things about you, but looking at you in the street you all look so much the same. And that's why I'm talking to you about the psychology of dress."  In 1927 an American journalist wrote: "A change has come over our democracy, it is called consumptionism. The American citizens first importance to his country is now no longer that of citizen, but that of consumer.    The rise of consumerism helped to create a stock market boom—which Bernays encouraged by promoting the idea that ordinary people should buy shares.   The rise of consumerism helped to create a stock market boom—which Bernays encouraged by promoting the idea that ordinary people should buy shares. www.imdb.com  Elected in 1928, President Herbert Hoover was the first politician to embrace the central role of consumerism.   Elected in 1928, President Herbert Hoover was the first politician to embrace the central role of consumerism. www.imdb.com  Hoover told a group of advertisers and public relations men: "You have taken over the job of creating desire and have transformed people into constantly moving happiness machines. Machines which have become the key to economic progress."  'Hoover  But the rise of American consumerism would not be without an opposite effect. In late October 1929, while Hoover and the leaders of the business world were at a party to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the lightbulb and the legacy of capitalism, stocks began to plunge — and within days would crash.   But the rise of American consumerism would not be without an opposite effect. In late October 1929, while Hoover and the leaders of the business world were at a party to celebrate the 50th anniversary of the lightbulb and the legacy of capitalism, stocks began to plunge — and within days would crash. www.imdb.com  You all know what happened next.   You all know what happened next. commons.wikimedia.org  But consumerism wasn't done. The National Association of Manufacturers and other groups launched PR campaigns to promote the benefits of capitalism.   But consumerism wasn't done. The National Association of Manufacturers and other groups launched PR campaigns to promote the benefits of capitalism. Library of Congress  World War II jump-started American industry, and when it was all over the consumer movement was stronger than ever.   World War II jump-started American industry, and when it was all over the consumer movement was stronger than ever. en.wikipedia.org

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Re: The Staggering Conspiracy Behind the Consumer Culture....
« Reply #1 on: February 26, 2013, 11:47:02 PM »
So, because the people have a bunch of personal debt piled up its corporations fault for wanting to sell their product, and advertising to do so. I don't disagree people buy things today they don't need, but I think the problem lies with stupid people not knowing how to keep a budget or balance a checkbook.
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« Reply #2 on: March 01, 2013, 05:21:51 AM »
nice article tm7. this is one of the issues parents need to make their kids aware of to keep themselves on budget when they become responsible. there is no doubt that there is lots of science in marketing
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Re: The Staggering Conspiracy Behind the Consumer Culture....
« Reply #3 on: March 01, 2013, 06:23:04 PM »
So, because the people have a bunch of personal debt piled up its corporations fault for wanting to sell their product, and advertising to do so. I don't disagree people buy things today they don't need, but I think the problem lies with stupid people not knowing how to keep a budget or balance a checkbook.
Look our whole system is based on building the better mouse trap and showing you why it is better.
The problem is TM7 thinks that Corperations have all the power and that people are powerless like little kids watching saturday cartoons and seeing a commercial and saying "I want that" And there is nothing wrong with wants.
We need wants,  as people want things, new products will be made and new invention will be created. 
But TM7 thinks that madison ave and wall street are tied together in an evil conspiracy that MAKES people over spend, Makes people want things and spend for them.
 

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Re: The Staggering Conspiracy Behind the Consumer Culture....
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 05:05:34 AM »
Oh, those evil corporations made me buy stuff I don't need. They made be max out my credit card, and deplete my savings. With personal responsibility gone anymore, hey just blame everything on corporations, or rich guys. That seems to be the pattern anymore. If you ask me thats a pretty lame excuse to blame a company for your overspending on things you don't need. It also says something about ones lack of intelligence. If I went into deep debt, I'd actually be ashamed to blame anyone but myself. Isn't that the s.o.p. of today? Just blame something or someone else for your own faults and failures. After all we have a big over grown government to fix things. All you need to do is claim you are a victim of corporations stealing your wealth.

Is there a corporation to blame for buying a home that is four times bigger than you need, and one you can't afford? Maybe a bunch of companies could be at fault here. Lumber companies, wallboard companies, makers of roofing, furniture and appliance companies. The list could be endless of who to blame.   
I mean there is always GM to blame for making you buy a red corvette, that you don't need or can afford.  GM has to be at fault because they advertised you would be more sexy looking in a red corvette, and hot women would be attracted to you. Maybe the double blame game could be played in this case. Ran out of money, and no hot women attacking you.       
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 06:10:43 AM »
I agree people should be responsible for their own actions, BUT when they're given false information on which to base their judgements it's not entirely their fault. 
 
Bernays was a pioneer in the use of propaganda (which he renamed public relations) to convince consumers they needed a particular product.  If you google Edward Bernays you will find that the methods he employed are still very much in use today - and very successfully.
 
He viewed the populace not as citizens, but as consumers who could be persuaded (brainwashed actually) to buy anything that was produced, even if they had no need for it.  He was a true progressive, associated with people like Woodrow Wilson.
 
We all "know" how important a good breakfast is for you, right?  Well, up until the 1920's people didn't know that so they, for the most part, either skipped breakfast or ate very little - and got along just fine.  Today people just accept it as fact that breakfast is so very important - even though there is absolutely no scientific evidence to confirm it.  It's one of those "truisms" that is repeated so often people accept it as fact. 
 
Notice any similarities to the tactics of our current Progressive in Chief?

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Re: The Staggering Conspiracy Behind the Consumer Culture....
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 12:15:15 PM »
It's called Marketing which is a polite word for lying.

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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2013, 04:43:14 PM »
It's called Marketing which is a polite word for lying.
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Selling Ice Cubes to Eskamos is a good sales man
Calling the Ice Cubes Prefab housing in Marketing.
New and improved is the marketing that confuses me.
If it is New how can it be improved?

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« Reply #8 on: March 13, 2013, 06:10:37 AM »
Because before, we were selling you old and crappy! ;D

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« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2013, 05:19:05 AM »
A few points. There is plenty of blame to go around for rabid (either unnecessary or undeserved) consumerism.

Marketing is mostly aimed @ married women. Women do most of the shopping. This type of marketing is predicated on guilt!  The message is: A. you are a real slob B. you don't give a rats posterior about your hub or your kids. C. What's worse is your mother and all your GF's know it and whisper about you. BUT, if you buy our product, you will redeem yourself. All will be right with the world.

Marketing aimed @ men is more subtle. It's based on vanity.  The message: You are a true man among men! Women swoon @ the sight of you and men are jealous of your yard, truck, shooting ability, luck w/ the ladies, etc. You are the best! So, you deserve our product because it, like you is simply the best.

In times past it was taught in school: you must WORK HARD and save your $ to acquire the PRIVILEGE of applying for a mortgage, car loan, credit card etc.   Most important, live within your means.                                   

Now the schools teach: EVERYTHING is now a right! If you want it, you have a RIGHT to it!  Fairness is the rule.                                                                                                                                 

Liberal government: Can't pay for that house?  Bred children indiscriminately? You live in a crappy school district? Need a cell phone? Can't pay for college?  No problem! We'll use force of law and just redistribute wealth from those who DO WORK! And, we can make the working, producing people feel guilty by using buzz works or catch phrases like "for the children" "underprivileged" or "most vulnerable Americans".

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Re: The Staggering Conspiracy Behind the Consumer Culture....
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2013, 05:42:01 AM »
I call it the fast food generation. They want it now. My children are buying homes and cars that I didn't own until I was in my 40's I worked my way into them. They want the four bedroom home and the  50g's car now when they really only need the 15g used car/ truck.  It's really my fault I spoiled them they had everything they needed and most everything wanted.


Seems the "people" want what they can't afford and get it regardless. I see people with big screen tvs, cell phones, SUVs etc. etc. on welfare! They see it on tv and marketing adds and decide they deserve it.


You have to have an understanding of what you can afford and what is real. If you don't you are susceptible  to marketing ploys and mind games.


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