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Advice on fire lapping a smoothbore shotgun barrel
« on: February 09, 2013, 05:55:02 PM »
Dear Sir!
I have a single shot Rossi 12ga with a constriction in the bore where the forend screw tang is welded to the barrel. The bore is otherwise smooth: slugs to .72 then hangs up on the constriction; then slides easily to the full choke (down to .7149).


I would like to get that constriction out: not sure if I should fire lap or just take a dowel and some 2000grit paper and hone it. Seems honing might be too imprecise- just me thinking.


I own your book, and if I can find lead of BHN 12-14 .720 slugs, I can use the LBT compound I already have; yes?  Just need some long bearing-surfae slugs and load them subsonic.


If those slugs are not available, can lapping be done with a patched .715 slug?  would a round ball(*) have enough bearing surface to lap properly?  can something be done with shot/wad combinations? I have lots of wads, if they can be used; but long lead slugs of proper BHN are elusive so far.


basically, what can I do to make this a nice slug/round ball shooter? Ideally, i would like to remove the full choke and get down to a cylinder bore to use full bore slugs.  But I have this constriction to deal with first.


Many thanks!
C-


(*) all the RBs I have found so far are pure lead, which i know you don't recommend as ideal for lapping.
 
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Re: Advice on fire lapping a smoothbore shotgun barrel
« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2013, 07:10:30 PM »
  Iv'e owned one of those little Rossi's, in 20 guage, so presume it's the same frame as my 20 guage had a breach large enough to accomidate a 12 guage, and barrels available.  Same constriciton where the forend bold was welded on.

  My reccomendation is that you pull a slug from a shell and try it in the choke.  I believe you'll find it will slip though easily, or maybe just fit snugly.  If you open the choke up, the slugs will rattle out the  end.  And, the constriction will be too small to cause a negative effect on their performance.

  So, I suggest you first try shooting it with slugs and see how it shoots as is.  If it's accuate, don't fix it.  This way you'll still have a useful shotgun.

  My Rossie said full choke on the side but was only choked about .006, so I turned the end concentric on the outside with the bore, machined up a choke with I believe about .030 constriction total pressed it on the barrel and tack welded it on opposite sides, just in case, even though it doen't shoot off with 3 inch magnum laods.  I then welded steel scope mount rings on so I culd mount a rifle hunting scope.    At 30 yards the pattern has only spread a bit over 4 inches, except for the strays which open it to a bit over 5 inches.  It is easy to hit running small game and not tear the meat up much by swinging the cross hair just ahead of its nose so the pattern brushes the head.  It is sighted for and shoots slugs with very good accuracy, though I've never printed a target on paper with it.  Just adjusted to hit on at about 80 yards, and found thtat a 3 to 4  inch target was mine, which is good enough for me, especially  with only 2 3/4 inch slugs available in my area.

If you gun is chambered for 3 inch shells, you'll probably not get really good slug performance with 2 3/4  inch shells, due to the long jump to bore diameter.

  I haven't explained how to lap the constriction out, because I believe it is a waste of time.
  But if you do decide you want to lap it, you'll need to pour a lap skag around a suitable rod,  then pull and push it thrugh the constriction till you have it straight.  Instructions for the entire procedure are in my lap kit instructions.  It is hard work, if you are tough.  If you aren't tough you can still do it, by lapping in laps.   i.e. Do it till you are tired then again the next day, until the job makes you happy.
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Re: Advice on fire lapping a smoothbore shotgun barrel
« Reply #2 on: February 22, 2013, 05:51:33 AM »
thank you Sir!
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