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Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« on: March 02, 2013, 04:58:59 AM »
    Obama signs order to begin $85B in spending cuts  Published March 02, 2013
FoxNews.com      WASHINGTON –  President Obama signed an order authorizing the government to begin cutting $85 billion from federal accounts, officially enacting across-the-board spending reductions.
Obama acted Friday, the deadline for the president and Congress to avoid the steep, one-year cuts.
The president placed blame squarely on Republican lawmakers at a Friday press conference for failing to stop automatic spending cuts that were to begin kicking in later in the day, calling the cuts "dumb, arbitrary."
Republicans, for their part, said the fault was his, for insisting that increased taxes be part of the resolution
The president said the impact of the cuts won't immediately be felt, but middle class families will begin to "have their lives disrupted in significant ways." He said that as long as the cuts stay in effect, Americans will know that the economy could have been better had they been averted.
 
"The pain, though, will be real," Obama said.
He said he still believed the cuts could be replaced but he wanted a deal that includes more tax revenue.
"Let's be clear: None of this is necessary," Obama told reporters at the White House. "It's happening because of a choice that Republicans in Congress have made. We shouldn't be making a series of dumb, arbitrary cuts to things."
Obama met for less than an hour Friday morning with House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell and House Democratic leader Nancy Pelosi.
 
Boehner's office said he and McConnell told Obama they're willing to close tax loopholes but only to lower taxes overall, not to replace spending cuts. Obama and congressional leaders have agreed that Congress should pass a bill funding the government beyond the end of March while they keep working on a way to replace the spending cuts, Boehner's office said.
"The president got his tax hikes on January 1st," Boehner said bluntly after the meeting with Obama. "The discussion about revenue in my view is over. It's about taking on the spending problem here in Washington."
 
On Thursday, two proposals aimed at blunting the blame over the cuts -- one Democratic and the other Republican -- were rejected in the Senate.
McConnell has already drawn a line in the stand and said in a statement released before Friday's meeting that Republicans will not support any last-minute deals and they will not raise taxes.
 
"Republicans have offered the President numerous solutions, including the flexibility he needs to secure those reductions more intelligently," McConnell said in the statement. "I am happy to discuss other ideas to keep our commitment to reducing Washington spending at today's meeting. But there will be no last-minute, back-room deal and absolutely no agreement to increase taxes."
In addition to McConnell, the President meet with House Speaker John Boehner, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid and House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi. Vice President Biden will also be at the meeting.
 
In the days leading up to the deadline, there were few signs that either party had much progress on how to cut the federal debt that now tops $16.5 trillion.
As the White House has come to acknowledge, the impact of the cuts will – for the most part -- not be felt immediately.
The billions of dollars in budget cuts are most likely going to phase in over the next few months. Furloughs of government workers will begin several weeks from now. Administration officials say the impact of this and other cuts will build up over time; Obama describes the effect on the economy as a “tumble downward.”
 
But some fiscal hawks see a silver lining, in that the sequester will force the government to trim the waste in order to shield higher-priority items. Already, the White House budget office is recommending agencies take a skeptical eye toward costly conferences and training programs.
 
The two sides remain deadlocked over the issue of raising taxes. Republicans want to replace the current regime of cuts with different, more sensible, cuts. Democrats want to blend in a set of tax increases, closing loopholes for top earners and some corporations.
The effects of the 2013 sequestration will be rolled out over the next several months. It won’t be a government shutdown but it will be a government slowdown.
“The impact of this policy won’t be felt overnight but it will be real,” Obama said. “The longer these cuts are in place, the greater the damage.”
The predicted impact of the spending cuts could come in flight delays, limited hours at national parks, longer wait times at border crossings and furloughs of civilian Pentagon employees – and workers at several other agencies.
Some officials say the administration has the leeway, or should be given the leeway, to spread around the budget pain.
 
“There is so much hype on this, it’s ridiculous,” David Walker, former U.S. comptroller general, told Fox News. “We spend as much money as the next 15 countries put together and some of the people who are hyping this big time are going to be really embarrassed.”
How the public reacts to the cuts will have an effect on how Congress addresses the issue. If voters react with a shrug, the GOP may be less compelled to agree to the kinds of tax increases Obama wants. If there’s a big backlash, the Obama administration may take it as vindication that the public won’t stand for big cuts to federally funded programs. Still, Republicans point out that the sequester idea originated at the White House.
“The sky is not going to fall but things will get progressively worse,” Maryland Democrat Rep. Chris Van Hollen said.
 
White House spokesman Jay Carney said Friday’s talks are designed to be a “constructive discussion” about how to keep the deep spending cuts from having harmful consequences.
The meeting, the first face-to-face since Obama was sworn in for his second term in January, will essentially look past the current $85 billion in cuts to the next looming fiscal crisis – a possible government shutdown.
On March 27, the fiscal 2013 continuing appropriations resolution expires, cutting off the ability of most agencies and programs to operate. A new spending bill will be needed to keep the government from shutting down.
 
Following March Madness – budget style – Congress will have two months to decide on the debt limit. Congress has suspended enforcement of the $16.4 trillion limit on federal borrowing until May 18. The short-term debt limit deal will then raise the borrowing limit the following day, on May 19, to the debt accumulated up through May 18. The short-term extension, approved in January, will allow what budget experts project will be $450 billion in additional borrowing before the debt limit is raised to a new, higher level.
And then, even if no increase in granted by May 19, the Treasury Department will be able to stave off a final day of reckoning until late July or early August by redeploying cash management measures which would allow it to claw back about $220 billion worth of borrowing capacity.
The Associated Press contributed to this report.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/03/02/white-house-to-enact-sequester-cuts-friday-amid-questions-over-impact/#ixzz2MOlP4xnS
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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2013, 06:04:34 AM »
What really needs to be investigated is this totally outrageous obsession Osama and the Dumycrats have with spending and wanting to raise taxes.  I know it is key to their political philosophy, but they have taken it to insane levels.  Surely there must be a Dumycrat somewhere who can understand there is a difference between scratching your butt and tearing a hole in it.


I also realize that there are plenty of Republicans who are responsible for the spending binge, because after all, they are politicians, but I think most of them recognize that there are limits and they have been exceeded.  I have a theory that some time ago during the GWB administration a lot of spending and borrowing went on with the thought that it would do some things that were on their agenda and that the overspending would dampen the Dumycrats penchant for the same. 


If that was the plan, then it was horribly over calculated and misunderestimated (a little GWB lingo) the irresponsibility of their liberal counterparts.  What we did get was a load of verbiage from the likes of Nancy Pilosi about "paying as we go" for such things as the "Bush tax cuts."  If one applied the present thinking from the progressive party to that bit of genius, it would mean you would have to raise taxes to pay for the tax cuts--brilliant!


I know to some it is kind of crazy to believe that the NIC (POTUS) is really trying to destroy the country, but how else do you explain the idiocy of his actions and rhetoric.



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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2013, 06:30:48 AM »
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I know to some it is kind of crazy to believe that the NIC (POTUS) is really trying to destroy the country, but how else do you explain the idiocy of his actions and rhetoric.



 
MAGOOCH. Not crazy at all, that was apparent to most of us several years ago, now it should be to everybody. POWDERMAN.  ::) ::)
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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2013, 10:23:22 AM »
Compared to the money they spend 85 billion in cuts is nothing. Not one useless program has been eliminated, and until government starts reducing its size nothing is going to change. 
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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2013, 01:19:27 PM »
Compared to the money they spend 85 billion in cuts is nothing. Not one useless program has been eliminated, and until government starts reducing its size nothing is going to change.

 
AMEN brother, all those useless czars and huge staff would be a great start. Keeping michelle home a few months would save $ MILLIONS. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2013, 01:32:50 PM »
What really makes me angry about the whole deal is that people working for the government thyat migh actually do a little work to get their paycheck are being furlowed 0ne day a week which means a 20% pay cut for them. But the worthless Congress that won't do anything to even try to solve our money problems are exempt from sequestration. I couldn't find any information but I would suppose this includes our supreme leader, all their staff people, federal judges, etc.

I'm really disgusted with people that will vote in laws for the ordinary citizen and exempt themselves from them because they realise just how bad the laws really are. The only difference between us and a monarchy is the names we give our rulers. President, Senator, Represenative, they are more like a king and his dukes and earls, etc. now.

Just so you will know I'm not just now waking up to this mess, I've been kicking rocks and cussing for years about the whole deal. I've lost hope for the country. It's kind of like a bullet in flight, the farther it goes the faster it drops.



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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2013, 01:43:02 PM »
They gave more money than this to Africa to set up the internet there......
 
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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2013, 08:53:51 AM »
They are not cutting a penny. This which they call a cut is a slight decrease in the increase of spending for coming year. It is good for the people, bad for the government. Yet, so small that it will not be noticed.


Remember that all countries are made up of two parts. One part, called society, produces; and if it produces more than it consumes the economy grows and everyone is better off. The second part is called government and it only consumes hindering the first part (with taxes and regulations). The larger the second part grows the weaker the first part becomes.
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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2013, 10:06:11 AM »
They are not cutting a penny. This which they call a cut is a slight decrease in the increase of spending for coming year. It is good for the people, bad for the government. Yet, so small that it will not be noticed. That is the way it works. Decrease the amount planed to be spent, and call it a cut. Government will NEVER trim its own fat.


Remember that all countries are made up of two parts. One part, called society, produces; and if it produces more than it consumes the economy grows and everyone is better off. The second part is called government and it only consumes hindering the first part (with taxes and regulations). The larger the second part grows the weaker the first part becomes. Many people just can't grasp that fact.
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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2013, 11:12:16 PM »
Let's see, we sign a bill to put spending cuts in place and one day later give Egypt $250,000,000.00, two hundred fifty million dollars. Knock out services and wages of the folks that actually do real work here at home so we can GIVE taxpayer money to EGYPT. As a matter of fact why don't we hand out $73,000,000,000.00, seventy three billion dollars, in foreign aid money that we tax payers foot the bill for... looks to me like that's only $336.00 per taxpayer but we can do this. If we have trouble finding the funds to give away we can always borrow it from China.



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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #10 on: March 04, 2013, 03:35:57 AM »
Compared to the money they spend 85 billion in cuts is nothing. Not one useless program has been eliminated, and until government starts reducing its size nothing is going to change. 

yep just a drop in the barrel , unless of course your a defense contractor, GS employee , FAA personnel , or any number of other 720,000 or so workers that will be affected as the rolling cuts take hold.

BTW
, my neighbor was just notified he is being furloughed 22 days this year beginning in April.  He was also informed he is not allowed to speak to any media outlets regarding as well. Now someone explain to me how cutting 22 days of middle class folks employment is really going to amount to a hill of beans difference than say actually reforming our tax codes? or targeting non effective programs? or perhaps stop the transfer of tax monies overseas to afghan poppy field war lords, sheepherders and Pakistani tribal leaders and the like?.

You call it what you wish. I call it screwing the middle class little guy to protect congressional political cronies once again. 

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Re: Obummer signs order to beging $85 Billion spending cuts.
« Reply #11 on: March 04, 2013, 06:58:17 AM »
Sequestration hit on Friday and John Kerry announced $250 million in aid for Egypt on Sunday. LIKE if you agree Obama’s priorities are screwed up!
Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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What part of ILLEGAL is so hard to understand???
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