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Offline JohnA98

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Rust Removal
« on: March 08, 2013, 12:10:35 AM »
I have a 1935 Chilean short rifle (gobs of matching numbers- OOPS! - cleaning rod doesn't match). It is pristine except for 2 small rust spots under the wood. Want do something about them. I contacted a company named Evapo-Rust to see what effect their product would have on the bluing. Have any of ya'll heard of or had any dealings with this company? Thanks much  John
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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #1 on: March 08, 2013, 01:00:42 AM »
hops and steel wool

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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #2 on: March 08, 2013, 01:08:45 AM »
Thanks, fatercat, what grade steeel wool, 0000?  Have a goodun!  John
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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2013, 01:40:32 AM »
 This works better than steel wool. Sounds like a gimmick but it really does a good job. Pretty much all I use anymore for cleaning up old rusty guns...


http://www.big45metalcleaner.com/
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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #4 on: March 08, 2013, 02:21:41 AM »
Hey, Victor3, I just checked out your recommendation on the internet. I've never seen this product before, but it really looks good. Thanks much!  John
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."  Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #5 on: March 08, 2013, 02:28:31 AM »
John:  4-0 steel wool and Hoppes, applied lightly to just take the rust off, then cold blue to cover it.  After that, apply some automotive paste wax or even a bit of scotch tape over the spots to prevent them fromrusting up again.  You won't see them if they are under the stock.

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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #6 on: March 08, 2013, 03:28:03 AM »
Good mornin', Mikey, you seem to be my "go to" guy. Maybe this is not the place to ask a more indepth question, but from a restoration point of view, I have cleaned the rusty places with a small brush mounted on a Dremel tool and found that it was deeper than just surface rust. Should I clean and fill these cavities before bluing, and if so, what would be the best product to use for a filler? Any feedback would be very much 'preshated'.  John
"Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: fear God and keep His commandments: for this is the whole duty of man."  Ecclesiastes 12:13-14

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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #7 on: March 08, 2013, 11:52:29 AM »
For rust in the freckling stages I use the simichrome polish with a soft rag.  I can revive the finish from a $300 gun to a $1,000 in a heart beat.  It also brings the bluing back to its orginal luster.  I safe the used simi chrome polish on the soft rags from redoing the stainless and nickel guns to reuse on the blued guns.  It has less bite in the polish if  the quality of the bluing is iffy.  I guess in the hidden spots under the wood stocks we can use steel wool with it.  I haven't experimented  using the white or red rubbing compound yet.
I have had great success in removing the rust freckling on the older S&W collectable revolvers, plus body sweat stains on stainless and nickel finishes.  I guess i eat too much garlic. (summertime sweat with an in the pants holster)

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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2013, 02:34:34 AM »
Bill:  lololol.  Geez man, if I ate that much garlic I'd prolly be sweatin' inside my pants holster too (lol).........
 
John:  1911 has some great advice.  If that does not work for you then here is something I learned from a gunsmith who converted a Winchester Black Shadow with a 1/2 length mag tube to a full length tube but in doing so left cut outs in the bottom of the barrel for screw holes and wedges, etc.  He used bedding compound to fill the holes.  He made up a small batch the same coloer as the barrel, black, and although it looked like a matt finish where he applied it, he filled the holes and wedge cut out perfectly and you have to look very, very closely to see the difference between where he bedded up the holes/wedges and the rest of the barrel.  Granted, the blue on the Black Shadow is not the blue on a Chilean Mauser but since the rust holes are under the stock you would never see them. 
 
He made up the small batch of bedding compound and applied it, andjust after it set up he smoothed the contours of the bedding with 4-0 steel wool I believe, which dressed it right up.  Hope this helps.

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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2013, 08:31:15 AM »
 
  Caution:  Whatever you do, do not use Flitz metal polish.  Dang, just 10 passes with some of that on a soft cloth, and your bluing is gone!
 
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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2013, 12:16:48 PM »
Thats why i use the used simichrome polish, i save the used rags with it on it from polishing my stainless and nickel guns so they can be used on the blued guns lightly so it won't hurt the bluing.
Mikey/guys/gals;  The garlic keeps the bugs away when fishing. Well the misses sometimes too.

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Re: Rust Removal
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2013, 01:57:47 PM »
John:  4-0 steel wool and Hoppes, applied lightly to just take the rust off, then cold blue to cover it.  After that, apply some automotive paste wax or even a bit of scotch tape over the spots to prevent them fromrusting up again.  You won't see them if they are under the stock.

Yep, I've done it that way, too.
    Ray