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government enjoys record tax revenues
« on: March 05, 2013, 08:57:30 AM »
This years tax revenue would have balanced the budget if spending had been held to 2004 levels.As President Obama launches into the next phase of budget negotiations with  Congress, recent estimates may lend credence to Republican claims that the  federal coffers are well fed on taxes.
The Congressional Budget Office estimates the federal government is on pace  to bring in a record $2.7 trillion in tax receipts this fiscal year.
The increase reflects a steady post-recession rise in revenues. They ticked  up 6 percent in 2012, but according to the CBO could jump 11 percent in  2013.
The expected tax boost comes after Congress and the White House struck an  eleventh-hour deal at the start of the year that allowed for an increase in tax  rates for top earners, and for the expiration of a 2-point payroll tax cut. The  agreement will play a big role in boosting revenues this year -- and is also the  No. 1 reason cited by Republicans for not wanting to agree to more tax increases  as part of a new budget deal.
"The president got $650 billion of higher taxes on the American people on  January the 1st," House Speaker John Boehner told NBC's "Meet the Press" over  the weekend. "How much more does he want?"
Obama, though, said at the start of the first Cabinet meeting of his second  term Monday that he wants to continue to push for "the kind of balanced approach  of spending cuts, revenues, entitlement reform that everybody knows is the right  way to do things."
According to historical figures from the White House, the last tax revenue  record was set in 2007, when the government raked in nearly $2.6 trillion. By  2009, tax revenue took a dive, before gradually building back up.
The CBO shows that, as a percentage of GDP, revenue is still below the  40-year average of 18 percent. The 2013 figure would represent 16.9 percent of  GDP -- a full point higher than it was the year before.
The IRS has benefited from a bounty of sources, from increases in corporate  income taxes to increases in estate and excise taxes.
Meanwhile, spending is on pace to hit $3.55 trillion in 2013, roughly what it  was in 2012. According to the CBO, that represents 22.2 percent of GDP -- "a  share that is still larger than in any year between 1986 and 2008."
While Republicans say spending is the problem, both sides agree that cutting  discretionary spending alone -- or the annual spending that doesn't go to  programs like Medicare, Medicaid and Social Security -- will not solve America's  debt and deficit crisis.
With the enactment of the sequester, Congress will cut deeper and deeper into  discretionary spending. But costly entitlements will continue to grow, driving  up the U.S. debt and also the annual interest taxpayers pay on that  debt.
Overall Budget Trends
  • Over the past 20 years, federal spending grew 71 percent faster than inflation.
  • Entitlement spending more than doubled over the past 20 years, growing by 110 percent (after adjusting for inflation). Discretionary spending grew by 60 percent.
  • Deficits have pushed up the debt each year since 2002 as federal spending exceeded revenue. Fiscal year 2012 marked the fourth consecutive year of $1 trillion deficits.
  • Although debt held by the public surged from 33.6 percent of gross domestic product in 2002 to 73 percent in 2012, net interest costs have held below 2 percent of GDP because interest rates have fallen to all-time lows.
  • In 1962, defense spending was nearly half the total federal budget (49 percent); Social Security and other mandatory programs were less than one-third of the budget (31 percent). Two major entitlement programs, Medicaid and Medicare, were signed into law by President Johnson in 1965.
  • In 2012 entitlements were nearly 62 percent of total spending, while defense dropped to less than one-fifth (18.7 percent) of the budget.
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Re: government enjoys record tax revenues
« Reply #1 on: March 05, 2013, 09:09:13 AM »
2004 levels? Like, before the two Bush wars were put on the books? Imaginary numbers. Keep trying.
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« Reply #2 on: March 05, 2013, 09:19:46 AM »
It's Bush's fault!!It's Bush's fault!! :o :o gypsyman
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« Reply #3 on: March 05, 2013, 02:02:00 PM »
2004 levels? Like, before the two Bush wars were put on the books? Imaginary numbers. Keep trying.
Not making excuses for Bush, he is inexcusable, but I thought the Great Obama had gotten us out of those wars so why does government spending still go up every year?  And why does the Great Obama, Liar in Chief, insist that the sky will fall if spending is cut by 2.3% which isn't even a cut but just a reduction in the projected increase?
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« Reply #4 on: March 05, 2013, 02:27:15 PM »
2.3% of the entire budget translates to 10% or so of the budgets actually cut. And look at what was NOT cut: Senate and Congressional salaries, Executive salaries, operational budgets (power and water bills, security for the House, Senate, and Capitol, etc.) So, once you take out the "essential" budgetary needs, you end up lumping all the cuts onto a relatively few discretionary spending programs, including the military, which has suddenly become less "essential."
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« Reply #5 on: March 05, 2013, 04:13:47 PM »
The problem we have is that government spending has a base line of what they spent last year plus a 7% increase.
If we ever talk about budget cuts is is not in the base of what they spent last year, it is in the growth of the 7%.
If they talk about only giving an extra 5% instead of 7% they scream that the government will stop and grandmom will have to live in the cold eating cat food.
It would be akin to you telling your boss you demand a 7% raise and when he gives you 5% you scream and act like a 5 year old screaming that you just had a pay cut.
The 7% is not based on the growth of the economy it, just is.  Some years the taxes and other economic factors increase or shrink the economy and yet we still grow government from 5 to 7% and in the past 4 years we have not had a budget just 5 year old spending of I want that go to the bank mommy and get some more money.

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« Reply #6 on: March 05, 2013, 05:10:48 PM »
98, 99 and 2000 look like great years. Let's bring that man back!
Rumor has it he even raised taxes!  :o

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« Reply #7 on: March 06, 2013, 03:20:26 AM »
98, 99 and 2000 look like great years. Let's bring that man back!
Rumor has it he even raised taxes!  :o


Fine--let's also bring back the same spending and the same Congress.
Swingem

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« Reply #8 on: March 08, 2013, 03:26:28 AM »
98, 99 and 2000 look like great years. Let's bring that man back!
Rumor has it he even raised taxes!  :o
The Tech bubble is what caused the record taxes, once the internet Billionaire myth ended so did the taxes causing the massive deficits later.
 

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« Reply #9 on: March 08, 2013, 03:29:16 AM »
With massive tax revinues why are we talking aboout sequester?  Why is this government not using those massive new funds to fill in the gaps of thier over spending?
Also we are seeing new higher tax revinues this year, same as we do every time there is a tax increase and then a decrease as incomes fall, and as the economy retracts. (or does nto grow as large as needed)