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Offline rivercat

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Russian Mortar
« on: March 14, 2013, 11:53:45 PM »
Here are some pictures of a mortar believed to be Russian that I have made the base for.


 

 

 
It has a date on it of 1841. And I have made the base from Pitch pine based on an original plan for the period.
 
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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #1 on: March 15, 2013, 05:46:41 AM »
 :) Looks good, rivercat....
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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #2 on: March 15, 2013, 08:11:19 AM »
Rivercat,
when building the mortar bed are you going from drawings of a certian type or period of bed? Also who does your ironwork?
nice mortar there are quite a few Russian cannons in both England and Canada......
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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2013, 09:43:11 AM »
Rivercat,

Thanks for posting the pics. This mortar caught my attention when I first saw it in the link that I posted on your first thread. Is this a photo of a mark on that mortar? By the way, the bed you're making for it looks really fine.

Hey, you've been here long enough now to get your first criticism, the honeymoon's over. Ha, ha! I hope you know that I'm only teasing you, but it would be nice (if it's practical to do so) if you would give a more detailed description of the artillery pieces being shown; for example, the material that it's made out of, any markings on the piece, diameter of bore, length of barrel, etc. Just judging by appearances, I'm guessing that this is a bronze mortar. Is it painted, or is that a natural patina on it?

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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2013, 09:56:06 AM »
I believe this is a 24-pdr Russian bronze mortar and I've seen these mounted only on iron carriages. There's one of these mortars in the Finnish Artillerymuseum and it's on an iron carriage. I've seen photos of another one also on an iron carriage, somewhere in Russia. 24-pdr mortars like these were supposedly part of the defenses of the Suomenlinna-fortress up to 1917.
I don't know if they were in "active service" then, but atleast were included in a list of armament and after or during the year 1917 they were removed.

EDIT: Found a photo of the one in the Artillerymuseum.
http://www.geolocation.ws/v/W/File%3A152%20mm%20mortar%20from%201854%20H%C3%A4meenlinna%201.JPG/-/en
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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2013, 01:29:00 AM »
Quote from: Cannoneer on March 15, 2013, 09:43:11 AM
Rivercat,

Thanks for posting the pics. This mortar caught my attention when I first saw it in the link that I posted on your first thread. Is this a photo of a mark on that mortar? By the way, the bed you're making for it looks really fine.

Hey, you've been here long enough now to get your first criticism, the honeymoon's over. Ha, ha! I hope you know that I'm only teasing you, but it would be nice (if it's practical to do so) if you would give a more detailed description of the artillery pieces being shown; for example, the material that it's made out of, any markings on the piece, diameter of bore, length of barrel, etc. Just judging by appearances, I'm guessing that this is a bronze mortar. Is it painted, or is that a natural patina on it?
 Hi Mate fair enough well here you go then, It is a 6 inch Bronze mortar it is 31 1/2 inches long although it is still being researched it is believed to be Russian and was captured as a Crimean war trophy. We have yet still to decipher the writing on it . That is as much as I can tell you at the moment as a lot of the cannons and mortars we have are still being researched and does take some time.


Sorry forgot to mention that at some time in the past it has been painted
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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2013, 06:50:53 PM »
Did a little looking, the word under the Date seems to be the name of the City of BRYANSK. Here is a bit from wonderful Wiki, Bryansk is known to have been involved in a great deal of heavy industry. "After Cannon, and Ammunition began being manufactured there for the Imperial Russian Navy in 1783, Bryansk went from being a regional market town to an important industrial center for Metallurgy, and Textiles. It remains an important industrial manufacturing center to the present time.


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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2013, 12:10:15 AM »
Quote from: Androclese on March 19, 2013, 06:50:53 PM
Did a little looking, the word under the Date seems to be the name of the City of BRYANSK. Here is a bit from wonderful Wiki, Bryansk is known to have been involved in a great deal of heavy industry. "After Cannon, and Ammunition began being manufactured there for the Imperial Russian Navy in 1783, Bryansk went from being a regional market town to an important industrial center for Metallurgy, and Textiles. It remains an important industrial manufacturing center to the present time.
Thank you very much for letting me know about this it is very helpful and I will pass this on to the person doing the research.
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Re: Russian Mortar
« Reply #8 on: March 20, 2013, 06:44:19 AM »
 Happy to help..  :) here is the City's coat of Arms
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