Author Topic: R9 vs R1 (Read 1194 times)

Jackal · « **on:** February 19, 2004, 05:46:31 PM »

I am considering purchasing one of these two rifles. I was wondering if anyone can give me any insight as to which is better. I plan on buying a .177 and using it mainly for squirrels and target shooting. I would like to shoot out to 50 yards accurately, which of these two offers the best preformance?
Thanks

big6x6 · « **Reply #1 on:** February 20, 2004, 01:41:34 AM »

IF .177 is the caliber you have decided on, there's really no reason to get anything other than a R-9.

Jackal · « **Reply #2 on:** February 20, 2004, 06:13:06 PM »

I am not heart set on a .177. Would a .20 caliber be any better for doing both hunting and target shooting?
Thanks
Brad

Lawdog · « **Reply #3 on:** February 21, 2004, 12:53:19 PM »

Jackal,

Squirrels are a hard kill. Go with the .20, it is the best of both target and small game hunting calibers. Lawdog

Jackal · « **Reply #4 on:** February 21, 2004, 03:21:45 PM »

Any suggestions as to which gun is the better preformer?

Jackal

Stock02 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 21, 2004, 04:34:27 PM »

All I can say is big6x6 is an airgun fanatic and knows his $h!t. He guided me toward a R9 last year and I couldn't be happier. I think if squirrels are going to be targets on occassion I'd opt for the R9.

subfan · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2004, 12:15:02 AM »

After seeing the rave reviews of the R9, I bought one to deal with the fruit theiving squirrels in my back yard. Once the scope was properly sighted in, one of the culprits showed up. Standing up, eating dinner he was about 40 yards. One shot later, he was DOA. The impact from the .20 cal was impressive. A large blood spray ended it quickly and the shot was placed in the noggin. I am very impressed. The scope was the Bushnell Legend and the pellets were the Kodiaks.

big6x6 · « **Reply #7 on:** February 23, 2004, 01:49:52 AM »

"Any suggestions as to which gun is the better preformer?"

Obviously, the R-1 shoots harder with every caliber. That increased performance does come at a price. The price is the R-1 is generally about $150.00 for expensive, at LEAST a pound heavier, and generally requires a heavier-duty scope.

If I were to do MOSTLY hunting, an .22 R-1 is the obvious choice. A .22 caliber hole always seems to kill quicker than the .177 or .20.

If I were to do mostly TARGET shooting or plinking, an R-9 .177 is the obvious choice. An R-9 .177 will shoot MOST pellets well, even those at Wal-Mart. .177 caliber pellets are ALWAYS cheaper too. A .177 gun will shoot flatter than a .20 or .22 from the same gun. And to be perfectly honest, I have killed the most squirrels with a .177! Head/shoulder shots always work!

Saying all this, I have a R-9 .20 and a R-1 .20 Carbine that I will never part with. Two of my very favoite air rifles, I have killed a pile of squirrels with each. .20 caliber guns ARE more finicky about what they shoot well. The better .20 caliber pellets probably will have to be ordered, so you have to plan ahead.

big6x6 · « **Reply #8 on:** February 23, 2004, 01:52:22 AM »

"He guided me toward a R9 last year and I couldn't be happier."

Are you saying I give good advice? UNBELIEVABLE! :wink:

Hard for me to believe someone actually TOOK it! :lol:

Stock02 · « **Reply #9 on:** February 23, 2004, 02:31:26 AM »

Yes Chuck sometimes people listen! :wink:

Jackal · « **Reply #10 on:** February 23, 2004, 04:21:33 PM »

I am leaning toward the R1 for the higher power and nicer finish. Is the R1 worth the extra price? I plan to put a Swift 4-12 Scope on either gun I buy. Right now I have a Gamo 440 in .177 which lets me kill squirrels with relative ease but I would like a more accurate gun with a better trigger. The Gamo is not too scope friendly so I haven't done too much long range shooting; how will the .177 shoot out to 50 yards compared to a .20 or .22?
Thanks

big6x6 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 23, 2004, 04:50:20 PM »

"I plan to put a Swift 4-12 Scope on either gun I buy."

Good choice.

"Right now I have a Gamo 440 in .177 "

You'll be in for a treat with either the R-1 or R-9 then.

"how will the .177 shoot out to 50 yards compared to a .20 or .22?'

GENERALLY speaking, a .177 will always shoot flatter than a .20 or a .22 and will experience less wind drift. A .22 can have more retained energy than a .20/.177. A .22 of course will also punch a bigger hole. Since you HAVE a .177, I think I'd get the .22 R-1. .22 Beeman FTS and Crosman Premiers(boxed) shoot best in mine.

Jackal · « **Reply #12 on:** February 23, 2004, 05:45:05 PM »

Chuck,
Thanks for all the help. I think I read in another posting you have a .22 cal R1, how does yours group at 40+ yards?

big6x6 · « **Reply #13 on:** February 24, 2004, 01:38:53 AM »

"I think I read in another posting you have a .22 cal R1, how does yours group at 40+ yards?"

I have TWO R-1 .22s, a R-1 Carbine .20, and a R-1 .25! No matter what you read, 40yds is a LONG shot for an air rifle. Both .22s are excellent shooters and strangely, they prefer different pellets. If I do my part both will shoot into an inch at 40 yds.

Jackal · « **Reply #14 on:** February 27, 2004, 11:11:16 AM »

Chuck,
I realize your R1 in a .20 is a carbine model, but how does it shoot compared to your R1 .22s? Further what kind of grouping do you get from your R9 .20?
Thanks

big6x6 · « **Reply #15 on:** February 29, 2004, 12:00:57 PM »

The R-1 .20 carbine groups every bit as good as the .22