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Offline SHOOTALL

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Re: A final toast for the Doolittle raiders.
« Reply #30 on: April 22, 2013, 01:41:08 AM »
It always makes me wonder when people find heroic actions to mean little or even feel they are not worthy of mention in schools. It is a shame some Americans are willing to lose our history . Like they say forget it doomed to repeat it .
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Re: A final toast for the Doolittle raiders.
« Reply #31 on: April 22, 2013, 12:53:48 PM »
Huh.  Would you look at that!  A little baiting, a little trolling, a little bullying of those who don't share your ideology.  Who woulda ever guessed?
 
I guess this will be the actual final toast for those raiders, thank the same small group of posters who feel the need to prove over and over again that they either cannot read, or cannot comprehend, the rules.

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Re: A final toast for the Doolittle raiders.
« Reply #32 on: April 22, 2013, 06:26:50 PM »
OK I've taken the time to "take out the trash" in this thread so I will reopen it.

BUT...be aware that if you restart the crap that I took out you are going on a 15 day leave of absence from GBO.


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Re: A final toast for the Doolittle raiders.
« Reply #33 on: April 22, 2013, 10:51:24 PM »
There is an official web site for the Doolittle Raid, also known as the Tokyo Raid, All the crews are listed there and some very interesting information.
 
http://www.doolittletokyoraiders.com/doolittle_raid.htm
 
Some of the crewmen were captured, tortured, held in solitary confinement until 1945. Some died in crashes and landings/ditches. Three were tried by Japs in a mock trial and executed.
 
Our "Ally" Russia held one crew and plane for a fourteen Months until they escaped to Iran. They still owe us a plane!  >:(
 
They say 250,000 Chinese were executed for their help of the Fliers. I figger that was just an excuse.  ::)
 
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Re: A final toast for the Doolittle raiders.
« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2013, 01:35:42 AM »
Actually we did steal Texas, New Mexico and AZ---not to mention the rest of America.
Now, you can slice it, you can dice it any way you want---we took by force of arms.
I am glad we did---they are now trying to take it back.
So let's get off this and prepare a plan to stop it. They didn't or could not. Nothing is yours unless you are willing to protect it---no matter how you got it.
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Actually Bill we also paid for those territory's twice just like we did with Alaska . But the Russians
honored that deal and never came back asking for more .
AZ and NM were taken from the Apachie , Navajo , and several other tribes long before we ever showed up . An Apachie once told me if it hadn't been us it would have been someone else .
The French were very active as an Allie of Mexico around the time of the Alamo . The Mexican army
had been trained and supplied by Napoleon .

These Doolittle raiders knew that was going to be a suicide mission , there chanches of survival were
very slim . The whole insanity of that mission was what cought Japan so off guard . That's what
made these airmen so special, America's pride needed this victory after Pearl .
Even if the damage they had caused was minimal to the Japanise war machine the fact they were
successful had the Emporer not as confident that they had done the right thing .
Even Hitler was upset with Japan over Pearl he expressed his concerns over their timing .
His Merchant Marines were still relying on US cooperation in that area of the Pacific for safe passage .

His chief Admiral of the Kriegsmarine was already Leary of the American Navy in the Pacific and the
sophistication of our aircraft carriers . Which by the way were the primary targets at Pearl but they
were not there . This raid had Hitler stomping his feet telling the Japanise I told you so .
Hitter felt he no longer had any leverage with the US so reluctantly he declared war on us in order
to place his Navy in a high state of alert . After this raid the Nazi fears were confirmed , they didn't
at the time know how difficult this raid had been to pull off . All them and Japan knew in the days
that followed is that the American aircraft carriers had the ability to deliver medium bombers .
Back then that would have been enough to scare anyone the psychological effect of this raid on the
axis powers was devestating . 

Even Churchill demanded an immediate meeting with Roosevelt over our ability to do this . He
wanted those carriers repositioned in the N. Atlantic against the U Boats. Roosevelt refused and
its a good thing he did or we never would have won at Midway or Truck harbor .
Hitter may have had his U Boats and their bases but we had carriers capible of launching bombers .
Or that is what they thought and it bought us some needed time with Germany .
   

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Re: A final toast for the Doolittle raiders.
« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2013, 03:25:21 AM »
OLDSHOOTER. Thanks for the link and the history lesson. More time needs to be spent teaching our kids in school what all of our brave men and women have gone through to give them the freedoms that we all enjoy, and many, if not most do not appreciate.
 
I never knew a lot of what my Dad went through in WW11 til after he died. The japs were very cruel and barbaric. On a PBS show about Kentuckians in WW11 several survivors of the Battan death march told about marching in captivity and japs driving by would stick their bayonet out of the trucks to see how man POWS they could cut or kill while moving and laughing as they did so. They said they saw LIVE POWS tossed in pits, dowsed with gas then lit. Knowing what the WW11 vets went through, it really gripes my butt seeing what liberals have done to the America so many fought and died for. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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