Handi-holics: Need opinions re: two Handi-barrels in .223 cal.

[Land_Owner]

Please:

http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/index.php/topic,279657.0.html

Annealed too much - perhaps.  Need insight/advice on thread above in handloading section of GBO.

[sluggo]

 I don't have load data for jacketed .223 with IMR 4227, just cast which I keep under 2500 fps so I don't end up with dust for bullets.

 Starting load for my H&R 55 gr led sleds: 11.0 @ 1765 fps up to 14.0 @2234 fps

...just to clarify, I shoot these cast out of my AR also, so I intentionally keep the load below 2500 fps.

[Spanky]

Remember the guy on here that blew off a couple fingers a while back?? I see you following in his footsteps.
 
 
 
Spanky

[Dinny]

My advice would be to start over with different brass. I don't shoot any cartridges that have compromised components. It's just too risky. I think Bill put it best when he said, "there's old reloaders and bold reloaders, but not any old, bold reloaders."

Thanks, Dinny

[bikerbeans]

LO,
 
If you annealled the entire piece of brass it is junk and possibly an accident waiting to happen.  Do a google search on how to anneal brass and pay attention to the warnings regarding annealing to much of the case.    If you send me your address I will send you 100 1xfired 5.56 LC that have had the primer pockets decrimped with a Dillon Super Swager.
 
BB

[colt1960]

I agree with the others. throw the brass in the trash and start over. the bottom 2/3 of the brass is work hardened when made and you removed that when drying. only the top portion of the brass should ever be annealled.

[sluggo]

 I forgot to mention...4227 is a faster burning powder too.......use it in just the reduced cast loads, but my jacketed bullets like the 4895, Varget,RL12 range powders.

[OldSchoolRanger]

Land_Owner - I posted also on your other thread about "too much annealing".  I have to agree with the other guys, and recommend that you recycle the brass, as it's no good for reloading anymore. 

I also mentioned that the powder is too fast for the 223, and should not be used.  That's probably the reason that Dupont doesn't list 4227 for the 223.

[gcrank1]

+1 on the recyle it; if alum. beverage cans are worth recyling, so is cartridge brass. Might want to bash each with a hammer to keep anybody from thinking to use it from where you sell it.

BTW, I did that overlong grill thing with some premium brats way back, they ended up the size of cheap hot dogs and looked like what comes out the south end of a north bound hound.
They werent worth 'using' either 

[Land_Owner]

Remember the guy on here that blew off a couple fingers a while back?? 

No I do not remember that fellow and No I don't want to follow in that guy's footsteps. 

If you send me your address I will send you 100 1xfired 5.56 LC that have had the primer pockets decrimped with a Dillon Super Swager.

BB, I sincerely appreciate your offer but it would be greedy of me to follow it up.  I already have about 90 times that many primed, swaged, small base die sized, (some) factory annealed, deburred, non-fire formed cases from which to start over.

Thanks to all for your concern and reasoned opinions.  I cherish ALL of my extremities and hear you LOUD and CLEAR.  In the trash these cases go.  Back to the reloading table to find a suitable alternative.