bill clinton draft dodger

[fatercat]

                 1969, under authority of COL. E. Holmes.

Clinton signs                 enlistment papers and takes oath of               enlistment.

Bill Clinton fails to                 report to his duty station at the University of
Arkansas                 ROTC, September 1969.

Bill Clinton reclassified                 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment               with

Army Reserves is revoked by                 Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and
subject to arrest                 under Public Law 90-40 (2) (a) - registrant who has
failed to                 report...remain liable for induction.

Bill Clinton's                 birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1,
1969, but                 anyone who has already been ordered to report for                 induction
is INELIGIBLE!

Bill Clinton runs for                 Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice
under Public                 Law 90-40.

Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney                 General (1976), while a
fugitive from justice.

Bill                 Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from President                 Carter.

Bill Clinton                 becomes the FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve                 as
President of the United States.

All these                 facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public
laws,                 and various books that have been published, and have not                 been
refuted by Clinton.

After the 1993 World Trade                 Center bombing, President Clinton promised
that those                 responsible would be hunted down and               punished.

After the 1995 bombing in                 Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S.
military personnel,                 Clinton promised that those responsible would be
hunted down                 and punished.

After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in                 Saudi Arabia, which killed 19
and injured 200 U.S. military                 personnel, Clinton promised that those
responsible would be                 hunted down and punished.

After the 1998 bombing of                 U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224
and injured 5,000,                 Clinton promised that those responsible would be
hunted down                 and punished.

After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole,                 which killed 17 and injured 39
U.S. sailors, Clinton promised                 that those responsible be hunted down
and                 punished.

Maybe if Clinton had kept                 those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in
New York and                 Washington, DC, who are now dead would be alive                 today.

THINK ABOUT IT! It is a                 strange turn of events. Hillary gets $8
Million for her                 forthcoming memoir.. Bill gets about $12 Million for
his                 memoir yet to be written. This from two people who spent 8 years
being                 unable to recall anything about past events while under                 oath.

Sincerely,

Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter                 USN (ret)

P.S. Please forward this to as many people as                 you can! We don't want
this woman to even THINK of being                 President

!____________________________________________________________

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[magooch]

Who would want a common felon in our armed forces anyway?

[Conan The Librarian]

His record as a president notwithstanding, dodging the Viet Nam draft was a smart thing to do. It was a lot like this mess in Iraq/Afghanistan today. After the first few years it was a morass perpetuated by stupid politicians and generals. A lot of young peoper were not perceptive enough to understand that, and they became cannon fodder. Some did see through the fog and made sensible decisions.

[garbhead]

Since this is an old story, maybe because he didn't have a rich daddy to help him cut the line to get into a Nat Guard unit learning to fly jets that they no longer used, rather than serving his country like he wanted hundreds of thousands of "other" young men and women to do 38 yrs later to protect our country.

[yellowtail3]

Since this is an old story, maybe because he didn't have a rich daddy to help him cut the line to get into a Nat Guard unit learning to fly jets that they no longer used, rather than serving his country like he wanted hundreds of thousands of "other" young men and women to do 38 yrs later to protect our country.

F-102 was still being used when Dubya was trained. The F-102 was deployed to Vietnam - there was a squadron at Da Nang as early as 1965 and at Bein Hoa, and also at Don Muang and Udorn in Thailand.  Here are a bunch of them at Tan Son Nhut in 1969:



F102 were used in VN for air defense and, though not it's strong suit, for air-to-ground work.
Dubya graduated training in the F-102 in June of 1970; the last F-102s left Vietnam in May of 1971. So yeah.. it's an old storyj, but get your story straight on Dubya & F-102 employment in VN?

[Oldshooter]

This doesn't have to cut along party affiliation.(remember if you dont call em honestly you dont have credibility) It is old news but interesting. "WE" must remember it is a volunteer army Now, those that go want to go, or want the government to pay for their school and not go. 
 
I wish to thank those that serve and ask the politicians to use their precious  lives wisely.
 
I wonder how he scated on that.

[garbhead]

The main point is that the well-to-do can almost always find ways to get out of things that most of the rest of us cannot. It happened before W and still happens now.

There's a lot more to the whole story than what  planes he was trained in. You're saying there is no truth at all to any of the OP's story? He just happened to "luck out" and find himself in a posh NG unit instead of in non-posh VN? And you know for a fact where and when the planes were used and not used and exactly where and when the photo was taken? You don't know unless you took the photo yourself. 

[Larry L]

This thread is just about as bad as the one for Bush- full of lies. Yeah, Clinton did get his call to report for duty but by the time he got the notice, he was already in classes and per regs, he was not to report as ordered. But the writer of the email didn't bother to point that out. Yet more crap from those who sole purpose in life is to stir the masses. Apparently they have no life and want to destroy others as well. Like Bush, I have issues with the Clinton era. About the best thing I'll remember him for is that nothing got done. He pretty much rode on the coat tails of the 2 previous Presidents yet claimed the glory for nothing happening.

[yellowtail3]

The main point is that the well-to-do can almost always find ways to get out of things that most of the rest of us cannot. It happened before W and still happens now.

no argument from me. but not all connected folks do it. still, no argument

There's a lot more to the whole story than what  planes he was trained in.

yeah, but you said it, and were flat-out wrong. Maybe you were just trying for drama, facts be damned?

You're saying there is no truth at all to any of the OP's story?

I'm saying that your post was full of BS disinformation, easily debunked with freely available info.

  And you know for a fact where and when the planes were used and not used and exactly where and when the photo was taken?

I know for a fact that F-102 squadrons were deployed to Vietnam, flew combat missions, and that those facts are at variance with you post. That's all. There's lots of like photos avail; just do a quick search. Problem with that?


Hey, I know where this photo was taken. I know the circumstances it depicts, but I wasn't there. I know what it represents with certainty. How can that be?

[garbhead]

Well someone must have told you or you read about the last pic...did they lie to you or were the facts misrepresented? But you still know with certainty the facts? OK maybe he was trained on an active jet, but by your own facts, a soon to be discontinued one....why didn't he go to Nam and fly them, then? Maybe they were used in 1965, that was a long time before he trained on them.
As far as me having a problem, I don't have a problem with you or any one else on here. I wasn't getting personal with you , but you seemed to want to get your panties in a wad about the F-102 statement. I personally don't know a F-102 from a Russian MIG. That was just another "fact" I discovered from a search on the net. You can "do a search" and come up with all kinds of things, don't mean any or all of them are true facts.
Peace , brother

[yellowtail3]

Well someone must have told you or you read about the last pic...did they lie to you or were the facts misrepresented? But you still know with certainty the facts? OK maybe he was trained on an active jet, but by your own facts, a soon to be discontinued one....why didn't he go to Nam and fly them, then? Maybe they were used in 1965, that was a long time before he trained on them.

F-102s were in VN until 1971. And when training in the AF - or Navy, for that matter - they don't give you a choice as to what you'll fly. If you're at the top of your class you can express a preference, that's about it. Needs of the service. Supposedly Dubya inquired about Palace Alert (program to get F-102 pilots into front-line duty) but didn't have the hours. In wartime... flying officers are far more likely to want a combat billet than just about anyone else.

Peace , brother

And to you, also. Didn't mean anything personal. maybe I should moderate tone...

[reliquary]

As a guy who received his draft notice in 1965, I have no problem with anyone who used any legal means of avoiding it.  I tried being a fulltime student, but that fell through because of having to work fulltime as well, and when I lost my IIS I got my "greetings".  Even being married by that time and a fulltime city cop didn't help.  All the NG and Reserve slots were filled, too.  Hello, Uncle Sam.
 
It worked out well enough for me, in the end. It didn't, for a lot of folks of my generation...when the country turned against the war, it turned its back on its soldiers, as well.  I see the government doing that new...