Remington 141- Front scope base mounted to barrel?

[mannyrock]

Dear Guys,
 
    I am looking at a pretty neat old Remington 141 pump in .35 caliber.  These rifles had a  short receiver, so when two Weaver type bases are mounted on top of the receiver,  they end up being pretty close together.  I would imagine that this creates problems, finding the right scope with the right turret spacing and eye relief.
 
   But on the one I am looking at, someone tried to solve this problem by mounting the forward scope base on the barrel itself, about an inch in front of the receiver.
 
   My question is:  Given that this is a take-down rifle, wouldn't there be some "looseness"  or "give"  in the barrel connection when it is assembled?  (I recall how the Rem 870 shotgun, when assembled, has a front barrel that seems to give or creak just a bit.)   If so, wouldn't this mean that the foward base would always be shifting slightly, up or down or side to side?     And wouldn't this mean that you could never keep that scope sighted in?
    Unlike the Remington 870, the take down screw is not on the end of the magazine tube.  Instead, it is on the side of the receiver, much like a Marlin .22 lever take-down rifle.
    Thanks for all comments, and tales of experience, with this issue.
 
Regards, Mannyrock

[spruce]

The scope may add some rigidity, but at the same time it seems there would be a lot of stress added to the scope tube.
 
The other obvious problem is it would no longer be a takedown rifle unless you removed the scope first.
 
Just doesn't sound like a very good solution.

[gunnut69]

A better idea would be a weaver or piccatinny style base on to the receiver but cantelevered out over the barrel. This would allow all needed adjustment but retain all the strength needed for the scope to stay zeroed. That said the current mount would likely work just fine for deer hunting at ranges appropriate to the 35 rem.. Fine old rifles..

[bluedcanoed]

I think you are mistaken as to the nature of the "takedown" feature of Remington 141 (and 14) rifles.
They are all made as takedowns, but the point of dis-assembly is not between the barrel and receiver, but between the buttstock/trigger plate and the receiver/barrel.

Therefore your concerns about "looseness" associated with having one scope mount base on the receiver and one on the barrel do not exist.

Cheers,

Bob

[oneoldsap]

                 The mounting you describe was the preferred method of mounting , for the very reason that you mentioned . I have one with the scope mounts you describe , and it shoots just fine . I also have one with an 18"barrel , that wears a 760 front sight , and a rear peep for a T/C Omega . It's a very handy brush gun , and will shoot one ragged hole at 50 yards !