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Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« on: May 12, 2013, 05:07:35 PM »
In the process of reloading some brass shotshells for my 10 gauge!
 These will be reloaded with black powder. When measuring out the black powder is this done by volume measurement are is the charge actually weighed! I have always understood that the black powder is measured by volume, but came across a source the other day mentioning that it should be actually weighed on scales.
 Any information would be appreciated!
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Re: Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2013, 05:56:42 PM »
The dram is a weight measurement of black powder.  Your confusion is well founded by poor industry communications on black powder "equivalency ". The linked articles explain how volumetric measurement of black powder is, at best, inaccurate and possibly dangerous and why the issue id confused.

 http://www.chuckhawks.com/blackpowder_volumetric.htm

 http://www.ballisticproducts.com/bpi/articleindex/articles/blackpowder1_unlisted/BlackPowder.htm

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Re: Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« Reply #2 on: May 13, 2013, 05:50:49 AM »
RPRNY,
 Thanks for that definitive description on this subject!
Any particular caution to be taken when weighing black powder on a Redding balance powder scale as far as the metal container used to hold the powder? I believe this little container is tin or aluminum. Or would it be better to have a brass container and also a brass powder funnel?
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Re: Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« Reply #3 on: May 13, 2013, 07:13:00 AM »
Several black powder measures have aluminum hoppers and many drop tubes are also aluminum, so I believe it will will be anti static charge. A brass funnel is a must though because the friction will build charge in plastic.
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« Reply #4 on: May 13, 2013, 08:19:23 AM »
Thanks again RPRNY!! :)
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Re: Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« Reply #5 on: May 17, 2013, 05:05:01 PM »
And now the " Plot thickens"!
 Started the search for primers!! Well you know the story there! :o :o
So in my online search I came across # 209 Muzzleloader  primers for inline muzzleloaders.  These were found on the Cabela`s website. So I clicked on the item and and went to the Q&A section and clicked it on, and a person had sent in a question asking are these #209 Muzzeloader Primers the sane size as the regular #209 Shotgun primers? Well the answer was yes they are the same size but are not quite as hot as the regular ones. So I started to think ( Which can be a troubling thing for me to do) since I am loading these solid brass cases with black powder and these cases take a #209 primer well they should work. So I ordered some,and they arrive and on the cartoon of primers it says not to use with smokeless powder and these are not to be used in reloading shotgun shells!! CRAP!
Well I called Remington and did not get a very good solid yes or no on whether you could use them in solid brass shotshells with black powder and got essentially the same answer from Cabela`s. It seems to me that putting that type of primer in a brass shell is essentially the same as putting it in an inline muzzleloader. Any of you experts have any thoughts on this I sure would appreciate any information!
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Re: Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« Reply #6 on: May 18, 2013, 01:07:20 AM »
The use of the 209 mler primers in your brass hulls is, of course, a personal decision.
If I were in the same situation, I would try them as I have pretty much the same line of reasoning that you have expressed. I cannot see why using them would be a danger.
What hulls are you using? RMC?
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« Reply #7 on: May 18, 2013, 04:09:50 PM »
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I am using RMC cases!!
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Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« Reply #8 on: May 23, 2013, 12:46:09 AM »
How did those primers work out? At the other end of the spectrum, I am loading 1/2 oz loads of #9 shot in 444 Marlin brass for the .410, using H110 and large pistol primers. I know they will work because they do very well in 45 Colt loads of double measure!
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Re: Reloading Solid Brass 10 gauge shotshells
« Reply #9 on: May 23, 2013, 05:13:28 PM »
RPRNY,
 Have not tried out those primers yet!
 I was successful in finding some Federal regular # 209 primers!!
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