Suppressors

[SHOOTALL]

The Suppressor as a survival tool , when you read about hunting in Africa you notice that when game istaken people show up for some meat. Gun shots are dinner bells. Africa seems like a lot of people live in a survival state most of their lives . If we were forced into a survival existence would a suppressor added to our survival gun be a plus ? or added weight ?
 A nice 22 LR pistol might be a nice item to have for game getting .

[Bugflipper]

 Without even factoring in people into the equation a suppressor can give an advantage to taking multiple animals. It's illegal to hunt with them in my state. I have a squirrel gun set up with a 28" barrel and shoot subsonics out of it. All you can hear is the firing pin hit and the action cycle then the animal getting hit. If you hold the action closed then a slight woosh can be heard that's quieter than the firing pin striking.

On squirrel the only real commotion is every now and then one will go whoop up on his buddy for flopping around on the ground and acting a fool. After he whips his dead buddy and hops on a tree to take a look at him he's down pretty quick as well. You can get several without moving. Where as we all know you might get a couple with a normal 22. But generally they figure out what's going on pretty quick and start high tailing it.

[Old Syko]

An effective hush puppy has been proven crucial in both the military and private sector for a number of reasons.

[Lloyd Smale]

waiting for my paper work to get mailed here so i can get it out to the batf.

[SHOOTALL]

It takes about 8 mos. after they receive the paperwork , The trust works very well .

[Oldshooter]

A suppressor and a night vision scope would be invaluable in survival mode for sure. It is amazing how those two items make night hunting a different game altogether

[SHOOTALL]

Yes and in Va. both are legal . The suppressor for the 22 LR works well on rifle or pistol. Even in a city a critter could be obtained with a pistol equipped with a suppressor and sub sonic ammo with little fear of detection from noise.
 Wonder how travel would work ? Passing thru. a state that does not allow suppressors ? Locked up should be ok ? If legal to own from where you start and where you end up ?

[Lloyd Smale]

I know before MI changed its laws it was illegal to possess one here. You couldnt have it locked up, in a case ect. It wasnt allowed in the state period. Same still goes for a short barreled rifle. there not allowed in MI even if you have a fed tax stamp for it. Get caught and you go to jail.

[SHOOTALL]

That's a shame they are really useful. I can shoot a 308 with little more noise than a standard vel. 22 lr.

[Lloyd Smale]

paper work goes out today!

[SHOOTALL]

Good luck on the time.

[Lloyd Smale]

still not here.

[geezerbiker]

I remember reading that no paper work is required to suppress an air rifle.  I've been thinking lately about getting a big bore PCP air rifle in 9mm or .45 cal with a suppressor.  I think it would be the bees knees for backyard pests.  Not to mention just for the fun of having a suppressed rifle.

Tony

[Mikey]

geezerbiker:  that is a excellent idea.  There was a fella here who asked about using a high powered air rifle in 45 caliber for hog and shortly after he posted that one of the gun magazines ran a article about big bore air rifles and what they were capable of, including hogs.  Having one of those silenced is a pretty good idea for backyard pests.  I don't know what the range capability is for one of the big bore air rifles but from what I recall, the 45 cal rifle produced ballistics on the low end of the 45 acp. 
 
Shootall:  having a suppressor for a 22lr, either rifle or pistol, is a excellent idea.  The courtesy you extend to your neighbors by shooting more quietly could easily fill your stewpot during tough times and/or provide for others.  And then too, whenever the ammo supply fattens back up you can have a lot of fun with something like that.

[SHOOTALL]

Quackenbush  or something like that is the name of the company that makes one of the large cal. air guns. The Dept of Game and inland fish in Va. use them for deer control. From what I read they shoot lead ML bullets.

[barabbas]

I'm not sure that I believe in total silence though I can see a benefit.  It might be good if folks know you are armed by the sounds they hear. If nosy neighbors hear rapid fire on occasion, it might be a very good deterrent and removes all questions. Then again, I'm speaking of my own location, property, and knowledge of who is already nearby.

[streak]

Saw a guy in East Texas on YouTube with a suppressor tricked out on his Savage Mod 10 .308 shooting wild hogs with subsonic loads. He could setup his shooting sticks and scope out the piggy he wanted an "Phfft"! He shot two boars following each other. The first boar in the lead just fell over and that was that followed shortly by the second one doing the same thing. This guy was shooting them right behind the ear. They hardly moved after being shot. The report of the rifle sounded kind of like a muffled .22 short.

[SHOOTALL]

 Unless you want the police to show up quiet shooting is best in many locations. Also unless you plan to stay home 24/7 and protect your home shooting can alert bad guys that the home contains GUNS. Around my home we hear three different locations where full auto fire is shot , often at the same time sorta dueling machine guns  . As for how quiet , full power loads in a 308 can be as loud as a 22 rifle. Subsonic loads can be as quiet as the mechanical noise created when the firing pin strikes the primer. Once shooting at a target on a sheet of plywood the bullet impact was louder than the gun going off. What is nice is not wearing ear protection and no hearing loss.

[Lloyd Smale]

my paperwork has been in for 8 months now and i was getting nervous. I called the batf yesterday to find out about it and they said first of april. GOOD NEWS