Author Topic: The new, confusing, king cuomo gun grab law (Read 1846 times)

ironglow · « **on:** June 09, 2013, 04:15:17 PM »

I have been told that auto handguns must also be registered..besides on our regular CC permit. Is this so, and if it it is, when is the deadline for compliance ?
I have 1@ .380 and 2@ .22 autos.

ironglow · « **Reply #1 on:** June 10, 2013, 01:27:50 PM »

Being as I got no reply here, I searched out and found on another site a Q & A from NY State, where you can easily figure out whether your gun must be registered. Here it is:
http://www.governor.ny.gov/nysafeact/gun-reform

tom548 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 15, 2013, 03:11:59 AM »

it is only a few hand guns that will fall into the law and need to be reg. The link you gave is the best way to get the info as you will be the one that has to answer if there are any questions from the man.

Mikey · « **Reply #3 on:** June 15, 2013, 01:45:48 PM »

IG: your 380 and 22 pistol do not have to be registered with the state police, yet. Part of this legislation establishes a licensing unit within the nysp to oversee 'assault pistol and rifle licensing and registration'. The pistols they consider to be 'assault-ish', or falling into their description of 'assault pistols' are those with extended or high capacity magazines (more than 10 rnds), forward mounted pistol grips, and threaded barrels for suppressors or other attachments. Your 380 and 22 pistols do not fit those descriptions and do not need to be registered with the nysp, yet.

But, this lovely commie pos nyc elected for a governor wants the nysp to oversee 'all pistol licensing and registrations', with the counties kicking in the necessary data to the nysp. The only problem is that the individual counties in this state retain 'Home Rule', which means they can elect not to complywith this law, and since this is yet another unfunded mandate placed upon the counties through the administrative fiat of the law, many are choosing not to comply as it is the county judge by law who is the licensing official in your county.

The nysp would probably love to take over the state-wide responsibilities for pistol or other firearms licensing but that isn't going to happen. If you ask how many 'assault rifles or pistols have been registered with the nysp to date you will see a piddling number if any at all and that isn't about to change. Face it, they can't come after 4 million gun owners and massive civil disobedience of this law has been advocated and will probably occur.

All this aside, lawsuits continue which may be the deciding factor between repeal, amendment or all out war. In this regard let's please understand that I am not really in favor of the later although I think it very well might be the lesser of two evils. If such is what it takes to restore our rights and rid ourselves of a corrupt government then just let me know where I can sign up.

ironglow · « **Reply #4 on:** June 19, 2013, 06:52:40 AM »

I checked through the official list of "qualifications" considering my 10/22. Since it has a "detatchable magazine", I already have the limit of features but since I fictitiously added a thumbhole stock (like Boyd's).. that automatically made my 10/22 an "assault rifle".
I'm glad now that I never paid for a thumbhole stock. I suppose with a Marlin 60 with a tube feed, I could have a thumbhole stock without running afoul of their stupid "assault rifle" designations.

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #5 on:** June 19, 2013, 07:26:00 AM »

I'm not a citizen of NY so I have no axe to grind . After reading the list on the site provided I got to ask what are they trying to do ?
Just one example , if you alter a gun you have from and assault weapon by removing the parts that make it an assault weapon you don't have to reg. it. I realize being a Southern Hick I don't understand the ways of big city politicians but Really ? Will the gun not kill as well ? Might not look as cool , I mean tactical but it will do the same job as before.

I know we fight the North / South thing to death here but I feel sorry for the honest gun owners up there. I hope it is not a preview of what is to come.
Good luck in your fight for common sense.

Mikey · « **Reply #6 on:** June 20, 2013, 02:12:30 AM »

Shootall: you don't have to try and think like a neu yawk city politician, or rather, don't set your sights so low. They don't know what the hell they are doing anyhow. Without exception, and I will gladly make this a blanket statement and not a hasty generalization, they are all either black, puerto rican or corrupt irish or italian. And I don't give a crap what they think - they are all crooked and all the blacks and puerto ricans want to do is disarm the white man because he is the one who owns guns, and can afford them legally and is a wage earner and land owner and home owner and taxpayer and by disarming them they can screw us out of more tax money for their corrupt causes. The corrupt irish and italians just want to be able to control the taxpayer. Look a kwomo, another mussolini who did the same thing in italy when he established his socialist party - hell, you still cannot purchase a firearm of military caliber in italy and they are still socialist even though they hung that pos upside down and shot him. Actually, I think they are all just stupid - especially those who would elect a former stripper and porn star as prime minister.

The law that king kwomo put into effect contains the language for a amendment and I say that if that egotistical greasy little meglomaniac won't repeal his own law then amend it to apply to neu yawk shi_y only and keep all of ny city's politicians the hell out of upstate. jmo.

IG - your Marlin 60 tube feed will be legal with or withoiut a thumbhole stock.....

tom548 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 20, 2013, 03:48:24 AM »

Don't be shy Mikey, come right out and say what you feel!! The only thing I don't agree with is Cuomo does not deserve the dignity and so forth that go with a King, I think Dictator fits him better. Sneaking around behind closed doors at night to pass laws that he claims we support and make us safer. The only person safer is the politicians ( criminals) and criminals. Well said Mickey

SHOOTALL · « **Reply #8 on:** June 20, 2013, 08:40:44 AM »

Well so far Va. is gun friendly and sent the hit squad from NY packing when they tried a sting here. So come on down we have room for gun folks.

1marty · « **Reply #9 on:** June 28, 2013, 05:04:12 PM »

On a previous post I noted my wife and I are in the process of moving to Nevada. Between the taxes, the crooked politicians and the new gun law I've had it. Even the republicans voted for the safe act. The uber-liberal NYC politicians control the entire state and look at people in other parts of the state as a bunch of red necks.

Mikey · « **Reply #10 on:** February 07, 2014, 03:49:51 AM »

One aspect of this new commie law has gone into effect and that is that major distributors will no longer sell ammo to individuals - in nys now it has to be face to face with a dealer. Will someone please take that crooked nyc commie out and tie him to a trailer hitch before the entire state goes back into revolutionary status. Wait a minute, that is exactly what I want to have happen, so let's find a rope and a cheap trailer hitch.........................

ironglow · « **Reply #11 on:** February 07, 2014, 04:48:15 AM »

I went on a "scouting trip" yesterday to a nearby state.. I found several gun shops within 30 miles of me, but still over the border where I can buy in bulk. Even from longer distances it may make the trip worthwhile for some folks, since besides tobacco and booze, now they can add ammo on their shopping list.
I fully expect though, that the reservations will start stocking up.. it works with cigarettes, booze, gas & gambling..so I expect ammo will be another on the list of frustrating revenue losers for the NY State tax division. ..But then, that is exactly what King Cuomo demanded !

I repeat; you just can't fix STUPID!

bobg · « **Reply #12 on:** February 07, 2014, 06:37:12 AM »

Would that state be PA ironglow?

mauser98us · « **Reply #13 on:** February 07, 2014, 04:15:57 PM »

Glad I live in Arizona where almost everything is legal except aliens.

ironglow · « **Reply #14 on:** February 07, 2014, 04:21:30 PM »

Quote from: bobg on February 07, 2014, 06:37:12 AM

Would that state be PA ironglow?

xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

Yep !

Mikey · « **Reply #15 on:** February 08, 2014, 03:37:08 AM »

Ironglow - would that include rimfire ammo? I'll tellya that if you are not standing outside the doors of wal-mart or dicks sporting goods when they open their doors after receiving a shipment of ammo the night before there won't be any left after the first 2 hours, at best.

Centerfire ammo and reloading components are no problem, just the rimfire. Do you think those places in PA will be any better stocked??

ironglow · « **Reply #16 on:** February 08, 2014, 05:05:21 PM »

I am not saying they have any more ammo available right now than we do here. What concerns me is that the so-called "safe" law will have us going through a clearance for just one box of ammo, just as we do to purchase a gun.. every time we purchase ($10). Then too, huge tax increases are being discussed in Albany, anywhere from $10 to $300 on each purchase. They want to make sure we don't get any ammo.

That's the curse of Liberal government...

Remember>>> Inside every Liberal is a dictator, screaming to get out !

Mikey · « **Reply #17 on:** February 09, 2014, 06:07:07 AM »

Ironglow: yes, the unsafe act will require a background check for ammo purchases whenever the nysp get their program up and running but until then you can continue to purchase what you want, at any quantity that is available for you without the background check.

There are a number of strategies around as to how to deal with the background check for ammo. Apparently nobody cares much if you purchase large amounts of 22lr ammo as the powers that be do not consider it dangerous stuff as they would seem to be looking out for large purchasses of M16/Ak47 type ammo. So, when you make your first purchasee under the law, whenever that comes to be, save your pennies and purchase large amounts - your background check wil clear you for purchase and the next time yourname comes up for a check they will see that you always buy a lot of ammo and that you have been cleared before, so you are good to go.

As for the M16/223 ammo - make certain you have a bolt, pump or legal AR type and you will be fine - same with the AK47 ammo - if you have a bolt rifle you are in great shape and I doubt anyone will even bother to question you after your first large purchase.

And don't forget, the unsafe act does not apply across the borders and any ammo you purchase out of state will nto require a background check.

Now, if our Native Americans would really like to kick kwomo in the butt for twisting their arms to kick over more casino winings or get a state run casion across the thruway from them, they should consider opening up gun stores to sell ARs. AKs, and all the ammo they can import across their native borders from Canada. You know, if our Native Americans here turned away from kwomo since they have found out he really does not support the oppressed and downtrodden, they could put a serious dent in his campaigning up here and of course, if they opened up gun shops that operated under Native law or Tribal law or Federal law, it would be a huuge thorn in his side and a direct insult to his strong arm efforts. Someone oughta go talk to those people................................

bubba · « **Reply #18 on:** February 09, 2014, 08:36:06 AM »

it is happening on the mohawk reservation here in Northern New York now. Plus don't you find it funny no concern with purchasing greater amounts of 22 ammo, but if you modify your 10/22 it is an assault weapon? The other funny part is now they are saying they have not even started a database and have no clue how. So it will take until after the election to get it up and running I guarantee it. So the guy who thinks the safe act dies not effect him as he only has a hunting rifle a 22 and a shotgun will still believe it does not effect him until he goes to bu ammo. How conveninet the system is not running yet.

Mikey · « **Reply #19 on:** February 11, 2014, 08:00:29 AM »

bubba: Hey! Is it just ammo they sell on the reservation or is someone there running a gun shop? (that you know of..).

Not to mince words old friend but there isn't one dang thing funny about kwomo's stupid law and the irony of being able to buy large amounts of 22lr for a rifle that could be considered a 'assault rifle' in the future just shows you how stupid those idiots who crafted that bill really are - Oooops, dang, the governor wrote that himself. Ow darnit, I sure didn't mean to call that little piker stupid.

Also, the nysp are going to have a more difficult time establishing a data base than any have thought. I forget now, but I think something like 52 or 54 of the upstate counties have refused to make pistol permit data available to the nysp under this law (and not just because it is another kwomo unfunded mandate) and truly, all it would do is give the nysp data on who owns a pistol. There is nothing in that data that shows who owns any assault rifles as defined in this law. This means the nysp would have to determine which pistols on someone's permit constitutes a assault pistol just by reading the description on the permit - there is no data there about how many rounds in the magazine, or if it has a threaded barrel or a front mounted pistol grip or magazine. And thank goodness for these counties exercising Home Rule in not sending out this data - if the nysp can't yet figure out how to create a data base on this information, does anyone really want them determining if something on your permit merits a 'verification home visit or, as king kwomo put it - confiscation'

Yes, I'm certain it will be after the next election before they can get anything up and running, even though he has already funnelled $25 thousand into it. And you're right again, those who have just a 22 or a shotgun will come to understand how far reaching this dictator's greasy little hand is, or wants to be. Not so funny is that I see history repeating itself again. hitler, moussolini and stalin - all despots, all butchers - all started the same way with firearms confiscation and a disarming of the populace. And we have kwomo. I am not seeing much difference.