I am currently in the process of having a good challenge here my neighbor boy is real interested in Archery and makeing Bows and his Dad is (basiccally a computer geek) but I become the neighborhood Dad. Now he is making his own bow while I supervise him. He is here almost every day this spring break before 7:00 AM well last night the Dad came over quess what he wants to learns as well not just to make a selfbow but shoot them so I get to coach a father and son in class of Bowyer anyway as for the sons bow he will be tillering this bow today and hopefully shooting it tonight! the dad he started with draw knife last night got down pretty close but still needs more before rasping.......