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obama STRONGLY objects to religious liberty amendment.
« on: June 13, 2013, 04:03:37 PM »
Obama ‘Strongly Objects’ to Religious Liberty Amendment    Todd Starnes
Jun 12, 2013


The Obama Administration “strongly objects” to a proposed amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act that would have protected the religious rights of soldiers – including evangelical Christian service members who are facing growing hostility towards their religion.

The amendment was authored by Rep. John Fleming, R-La. It would have “required the Armed Forces to accommodate ‘actions and speech’ reflecting the conscience, moral, principles or religious beliefs of the member.”

The Obama Administration said the amendment would have a “significant adverse effect on good order, discipline, morale, and mission accomplishment.”

“With its statement, the White House is now endorsing military reprimands of members who keep a Bible on their desk or express a religious belief,” Fleming told Fox News. “This administration is aggressively hostile towards religious beliefs that it deems to be politically incorrect.”

Fleming introduced the amendment after a series of high-profile incidents involving attacks on religious liberty within the military- including an Air Force officer who was told to remove a Bible from his desk because it might give the impression he was endorsing a religion.

He said there are other reports of Christian service members and chaplains being punished for their faith.
 
  • The Air Force censored a video created by a chaplain because it include the word “God.” The Air Force feared the word might offend Muslims and atheists.
  • A service member received a “severe and possibly career-ending reprimand” for expressing his faith’s religious position about homosexuality in a personal religious blog.
  • An enlisted service member received a career-ending punishment for sending personal invitations to his promotion party which mentioned that he would be providing Chick-fil-A sandwiches due to his respect for the Defense of Marriage Act.
  • A senior military official at Fort Campbell sent out a lengthy email officially instructing officers to recognize “the religious right in America” as a “domestic hate group” akin to the KKK and Neo-Nazis because of its opposition to homosexual behavior.
  • A chaplain was relieved of his command over a military chapel because, consistent with DOMA’s definition of marriage, he could not allow same-sex weddings to take place in the chapel.
  • An enlisted service member was threatened and denied promotion by a senior NCO for expressing – during a personal conversation – his religious belief in support of traditional marriage.
  • Last month Coast Guard Rear Admiral William Lee told a National Day of Prayer audience that religious liberty was being threatened by Pentagon lawyers and service members are being told to hide their faith in Christ.
“Leaders like myself are feeling the constraints of rules and regulations and guidance issued by lawyers that put us in a tighter and tighter box regarding our constitutional right to express our religious faith,” he said.

Fleming said the purpose of his amendment is to clarify ambiguities in the Pentagon’s policies.

“The bottom line is the military is bending over backwards to remove – even in the case of chaplains – expressions of faith and conscience,” Fleming said.

Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, called the Obama Administration's edict a "chilling suppression of religious freedom."

"The Obama administration has joined forces with those who are attacking the religious freedoms of those who serve in our Armed Services," Perkins said. "The Administration's opposition to Rep. Fleming’s religious freedom amendment reveals that this administration has gone beyond accommodating the anti-Christian activists who want to remove any vestige of Christianity from the military, to aiding them by blocking this bipartisan measure."

More than 167,000 Americans have signed FRC petitions in the wake of religious liberty attacks within the military.

“The effects of this chilling suppression of religious freedom is driving faith underground in our military and will eventually drive it out," Perkins said. "This not only deprives those who serve of the benefits that flow from religious participation, but it undermines the moral foundation of the worlds most powerful military. This should concern everyone."

Fleming said his amendment, which has bipartisan support, would have protected the free speech rights of men and women in uniform.

But the White House said the change would limit the discretion of commanders to address “potentially problematic speech.”

“That is an outrageous position, but it’s what I’ve come to expect from an administration that is aggressively hostile toward religious beliefs that it deems politically incorrect,” Fleming said.

He said the president has at times shown hostility in general for expression of religious beliefs.

“Now that’s beginning to be reflected in the Pentagon itself,” he warned. “We need to protect the free speech of the brave warriors who fight to safeguard our liberties and I hope Congress will reject this blatant White House Attack on religious freedom.”




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« Reply #1 on: June 13, 2013, 05:35:20 PM »
Glad to see Hussein finally get some backbone and start following the Constitution.
This Fleming character must think it's a living document.

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« Reply #2 on: June 13, 2013, 07:08:27 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: June 13, 2013, 07:12:28 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: June 14, 2013, 01:30:48 AM »
Cheap shot. Can you hyper religious types not see that any regulation that contains the word "requires" pertaining to religion is in fact a VIOLATION of others' freedom of, and from, religion? There is no mention of the bible and no quote from the bible in the entire Constitution. Period. You are ALLOWED to practice your own belief; you are not allowed to impose that belief on others.
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« Reply #5 on: June 14, 2013, 03:15:10 AM »
Oh, I see how it works now! 
It's ok to REQUIRE as public school to provide a time and place of prayer for muslim students
But a voluntary, student lead prayer at a graduation is a NO NO.
 
It's ok for a college to REQUIRE incoming freshmen to take a couse in muslim studies.
But it's another NO NO for a school to offer a Bible class as an elective.
 
So, REQUIRING the military to respect the religious rights of it's personell is wrong, because that would include protecting the rights of Christian military personell as well as others.  In other word, it wouldn't allow for Christian personell to be singled out.
 
Our military has functioned just fine for the past 237 years while allowing religious freedom for it's personell.
Now, all of a sudden, it's a "problem".  HORSE HOCKEY!  It's all just this administrations agenda to wipe Christianity out of America.
Read you Bibles folk, while you are still allowed to have 'em.  It foretold this very issue.  Christians WILL be persecuted...and this is the beginning!
 

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« Reply #6 on: June 14, 2013, 03:20:41 AM »
No one should be allowed to impose any thing on another person, but they should not have to hide their belief. And that goes for Christan, Muslin , atheist or any other belief.
It amazes me that so many people come to this country because they want the freedom to practice their beliefs but then try to stop other people from having the same freedom.