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Offline buzz36

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14ga info
« on: June 16, 2013, 04:25:33 PM »
Inherited a nice antique shot gun and need find info on a source for paper or brass hulls or an adaptor i can have made use a more common shells
I never reloaded hulls befor but want to learn i will be useing black powder and lte loads

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Re: 14ga info
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2013, 03:14:10 AM »
cab  you ''fire form''  out of brass  16 ga hulls ??????
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Re: 14ga info
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2013, 11:07:18 AM »
Here's some contact info for brass shells. They were $6 each the last time I ordered them a few years ago.
http://www.rockymountaincartridge.com/contact.htm

Here's another place I've ordered from in the past. http://www.gadcustomcartridges.com/#contactus


Circle Fly makes 14 ga wads. http://circlefly.com/index.html

You're going to want to load it with black powder or a synthetic black powder. Those old guns don't like smokeless powder much. In most cases it's an accident waiting to happen if you use smokeless.
The loads I use is 65 gr by volume of powder to 1 oz of shot. I have used 20 ga wads with 65 gr powder to 7/8 oz shot. I like Jim Shockey Gold  American Pioneer Powder because it isn't as corrosive. But if you shoot muzzleloaders too it doesn't like regular percussion caps in traditionals. Even the magnum caps aren't hot enough. Shotgun primers light it fine.
Good luck.
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Re: 14ga info
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2013, 02:52:53 PM »
Quote from: buzz36
Inherited a nice antique shot gun and need find info on a source for paper or brass hulls or an adaptor i can have made use a more common shells
I never reloaded hulls befor but want to learn i will be useing black powder and lte loads

 
Contact Ballistic Products for data and info, and maybe even where to find ammo!
 
Also try googling "Old Western Scrounger."  Used to be a store or company by that name that specilized finding weird and unusual stuff.
 
I know the 16ga is VERY popular in europe, and maybe even the 14 gauge.
 
I suspect the 14 gauge is a very good and effective round especially on upland birds.
 
ADDED:  If 14ga ammo can be found, I'd speculate it will be expensive even if the hulls are brass and plastic or brass and paper.
 
If Old western Scrounger can't be found, just google "14 gauge ammo for sale."  I have never used 24 guage shells but know that both guns and shells in that gauge exist in this country!  Maybe the source for that ammo can help with 14ga ammo?  ;)
 
Also its impossible to neck-down shotshells from one gauge to another!

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Re: 14ga info
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2013, 06:49:39 PM »
Not wanting to argue with you on it bud but English 14 ga have a big chamber. Often times you can fire form a brass 16 ga shell with toilet paper and have 14 ga shells afterwards.  Like I said not being argumentative. It's just a lot of English 14 ga would be more like a 15 1/2 if it existed. 16 ga will load snugly and fire but the case will split. After fire forming they are the right size.
Have a good one.
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