IG,
Listen to thumper, just buy one. I don't think there are as many problems with the Ilion guns as guys make it seem. Think about all the guns sold without problems. Remember that the squeakiest wheel gets the grease. I have three Ilion guns, the three Dick's Specials .223, (from a member), .308, and 22-250 (both from Dick's unfortunately, I didn't get the "Special" price) with the no name scope/mounts/hammer extension. Guess you have to be in the right state (Michigan, IIRC, to get them at the special price.
The 223 which I'm still working on a load groups at an inch and a half, the 308 (barrel is still unfired), frame is currently being used for my VP barrel and shoots clover leaf groups at 25 yards. The 22-50 (barrel unfired), the frame is currently being used for a 30-30, and shoots 1" groups at 100yards.
No problems at all with the frames, or the complete gun in 223.
OSR.