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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #60 on: June 29, 2013, 01:21:48 PM »
CDQ. I work for a corporation, and I'm very thankful for the job I have, and I'm very happy with the wages, vacation, and benefits I receive. If I felt I was getting screwed over by these corpro-communists (as you refer to them) I would have looked for other employment in the last 26 years. We kind of have an agreement. They pay me x amount of wages and benefits for the value I provide to them. Its the way it works. If people don't like what they are getting paid, then go elsewhere, or by getting educated in something that will increase your value to that business. The people that run corporations, and businesses are generally pretty smart people. They will pay hard working, and intelligent employees to keep them. If they don't their business will fail.
I can't understand the idea that a corporation should be required to pay everyone they hire a high wage. Increasing the minimum wage is just another socialist idea for transferring wealth.       
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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #61 on: June 29, 2013, 02:18:17 PM »
Scootered,


   All of those automobile plants are still up and running, and they are building more.  Why did you think that they closed down?  Texas is getting the lion's share of them.


   According to yesterday's Wall Street Journal, the F-150, made in Texas, is once again the number 1 selling vehicle America.  The Toyota Camry is no. 2, made in Kentucky.


   I talked to the Hino executives several years ago as to why they were building their new truck plants in the U.S., instead of Mexico.  Let's face it, labor is super cheap down there.


  They said that in Mexico, you must constantly have on your payroll at least 125% of the workforce that you need to run the plant.  Why?  Because every other Friday is payday, and the workers go on a 3 day beer drunk.   Monday morning, a huge percentage of them don't show up for work. Therefore you have to have enough workers employed so that if only 80% show up, you still have enough people to run the production line.  Plus, even the dumbest American laborers are geniuses compared to Mexican laborers.


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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #62 on: July 01, 2013, 05:02:08 AM »
You all complain about the 47% of Americans who pay no income tax. So YOU have to pay that income tax and make up the difference--- that I understand. (You don't seem to care that the top 1% don't pay any income tax, either, though that is a different issue.) Yet, you want to keep the minimum wage so low that there is NO CHANCE that 47% will ever pay a cent of income tax! You can do all the pseudo-logical gymnastics you want, but it does not change the fact that as the cost of living goes up, that percentage will also go up. Since you don't want the rich to pay more, and you're wanting to keep more and more people below the poverty level, GUESS WHO'S TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP?
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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #63 on: July 01, 2013, 10:03:39 AM »
More problems with some people's "logic:" Usually, there is no "owner." Instead, there is a whole array of corpo-communist bureaucrats making decisions on how little they can get away with paying the actual workers, what benefits they will offer, etc. Folks, that ain't capitalism. That's called a price fixing monopoly. Corporations are NOT people;You don't really have a clue do you ? Most corps in this country are not mega million dollar concerns they are a few people that got together and started a company. Many in fact are family owned. Their stock is not traded . The concept of getting people as cheap as possible is about as senseless a plan as you could come up with. Why invest in a person and train them only to lose them to competitors ? Most have to put up personal homes etc. so banks will loan them money and supply houses will sell to them on credit. they are corpo-communist oligarchies, in the failed, fake, "socialist" models of the '50s through '80s, which were really oligarchical dictatorships, and not socialist at all.That was a mouth full of hog wash They just figured out how to get the weak minded on their side--- it was as simple as pretending to be independent from government, while pulling government's strings from backstage. Deal with the real. That pegged my BS meter !
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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #64 on: July 01, 2013, 12:02:50 PM »
That meter is broken!  ;D
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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #65 on: July 01, 2013, 12:53:57 PM »
Any small business revenues that are used to pay employees, buy materials, pay overhead bills, and investment in new equipment is not federally taxed. There’s no federal income tax levied on income that’s used to pay business expenses. Monies that  a business spends on employee salaries isn’t companies income, it’s employee income, and it's the employees that pay taxes on it.


While in 2011 the Tax Policy center found 46 percent paid no income taxes, the center notes that many of these people did pay federal payroll taxes as well as local sales and property taxes. For most of the 1950s, corporate income at large companies was taxed at 52 percent, according to the nonpartisan Tax Policy Center. The federal government, meanwhile, collected about a third of its revenues from this source. Today, thanks largely to the “reforms” ushered in by President Ronald Reagan, the ostensible tax rate on corporate income is no higher than 35 percent — and the corporate-tax share of federal revenue has fallen to about 9 percent.

Personal income taxes (which have stayed at about 45 percent of federal revenues since 1950) and payroll taxes now provide the federal government with almost 80 percent of its yearly revenue.       

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/15/opinion/a-fairer-corporate-tax.html?_r=0
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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #66 on: July 01, 2013, 03:20:41 PM »
You all complain about the 47% of Americans who pay no income tax. So YOU have to pay that income tax and make up the difference--- that I understand. (You don't seem to care that the top 1% don't pay any income tax, either, though that is a different issue.) Yet, you want to keep the minimum wage so low that there is NO CHANCE that 47% will ever pay a cent of income tax! You can do all the pseudo-logical gymnastics you want, but it does not change the fact that as the cost of living goes up, that percentage will also go up. Since you don't want the rich to pay more, and you're wanting to keep more and more people below the poverty level, GUESS WHO'S TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP?
If the top 1% is not paying taxes wouldn't that put them in the 47% not paying taxes that we are complaining about? 
But that is a lie the top 1% pays almost 30% of all taxes collected so how is that possible if they do not pay taxes?  But facts never get in your way to press your  failed socialist adgenda.   
Raising the Min Wage as we all have pointed out, raises all prices more than the % of the min wage putting those same people behind.    We have all said this to you but you fail to grasp the concept that Higher taxes, more regulations and higher min wages all raise prices.  If the Min wage is $10 and they get a 50% raise mandated by the government then the skilled workers that were making twice the min wage will still want twice the min wage and demand $30 an hour, If all labor costs go up by 50% then all prices will stay at the same ratio.  The goal is not to raise the min wage but create new and higher paying jobs,  Something you also can not grasp  as a concept. 

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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #67 on: July 01, 2013, 05:50:01 PM »
The goal is not to raise the min wage but create new and higher paying jobs,  Something you also can not grasp  as a concept. 

There is no such goal .

On the political front.
The only legislation the new Republican party has concentrated on since they have been in office is that of Limiting a woman's right to choose and the supposedly "belief in small Govt " party wants to control every aspect of social issues.  I only wish they did have a serious agenda of putting a Jobs growth strategies as priority one.

Hmm maybe on the corporate front ,
Nope no such goal there either , still offshoring , and outsourcing, IBM was the latest in the news laying off 3000 US just last week, Jobs transferred to India and Malaysia .   Those so called NEW and higher paying Jobs for US workers are very few and very far between and the majority of all other "new" are overseas and not being filled by Americans.

Maybe our wallstreet investor buddies are working on something to improve our economy -
nope no such help there either, just the mere mention of easement of our federal tax monies being used to prop up this false recovery sent  stocks and metals reeling last week like a six flags roller coaster ride.

Everyone from corps to wall street  to our politicians have their hands in the pockets of the middle class fleecing more and more while vie-in  to pay less and less of their own equitable burden.

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My neighbor was home on a Monday not working because of his forced furloughs days without pay. 
But Hey BP got their subsidy.
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Re: The eight best cities to start a new business
« Reply #68 on: July 01, 2013, 06:16:06 PM »
The goal is not to raise the min wage but create new and higher paying jobs,  Something you also can not grasp  as a concept. 

There is no such goal . You are correct.  The Democrats are involved in the Green Movement and the Unions.  The Green people are winning and the Unions are being thrown under the bus.  The Higher paying jobs are being forced out of the country due to the regulations created by the green movement.  The War on Coal is killing thousands of Union jobs that mine the coal, that transport the coal from the mine to the power plant and then the use of the coal at the power plant that are all good paying Union jobs that are being killed and those same people will be moved to either Welfare or Min Wage jobs. 

On the political front.
The only legislation the new Republican party has concentrated on since they have been in office is that of Limiting a woman's right to choose and the supposedly "belief in small Govt " party wants to control every aspect of social issues.  I only wish they did have a serious agenda of putting a Jobs agenda as priority one. The over reaching larger government is short circuting the system and attacking the cheap power that drives our economy.  Limiting a womans right is an old chesnut that really has ended,  The question about it is who should pay for it,  In the liberal argument about Christmas trees on public buildings they say you can not offend others with government money.  SO why can the offend millions with tax payer money and fund those choices?  Oh right the left is do as I say and logic does not follow as long as we get our way.   

On the corporate front ,
Nope no such goal there either , still offshoring , and outsourcing, IBM was the latest in the news laying off 3000 US just last week, Jobs transferred to India and Malaysia .   When CARB California Air Resource Board is fining for taking the lid off a paint can for furniture makers and the fine is more t han the cost of the thing being painted it does not take too many fines before they move. 

Maybe on Wall street front -
nope no such agenda there either, and just a meer mention of easement in federal tax monies being used to prop up this false recovery sent  them all reeling with stocks on a roller coaster last week that resembled a ride at six flags. Again Government instability is what is driving the market up and down.  If it goes up then more taxes are called for.  If it goes down they yell about speculators when it was their call for higher taxes, amnesty, or regulations that cause the fall in the faith of the market.

Everyone from corps to wall street  to our politicians have their hands in the pockets of the middle class fleecing more and more while vie-in  to pay less and less of their own equitable burden. But it is the Democrats that have been giving away tax dolars to doners, using the IRS to attack political enemies, and using the power of the government to remove political enemy doners and reward the doners with less compitition. 

BTW ,
My GS neighbor was home on a Monday today not working because of his forced furloughs days without pay.  You would think that the manager of the departments could find better places ot cut the services on a budget that was larger then the one the year before but not as big as they wanted.  The Democrats are acting like a bunch of spoiled brats.  I got $10 last year for mowin the yard and this year I want $15 and when I only get $12.50 I am going to cut back on taking the trash out until it is over flowing and stinks in hope you will give me the $15 I wanted and now am demanding $18. 
But Hey BP got their subsidy.  But wasn't the BP Oil spill under Obama's watch?  Any of the subsidy is on his current watch.  How long will Obama be president before you will understand he is President and has been for the last 5 years and the problems are his?