Why do we wait for the check?

[Victor3]

Like most everyone, when I sell something online I wait for payment to arrive before shipping. But really, why should a seller do that?


 The buyer and I have agreed to exchange an item for a certain dollar amount; the item has been determined to be of equal value to the payment in both of our minds. That being the case, shouldn't one ship the item as soon as a deal is struck/auction ends?


 I know it's "standard procedure" to wait until payment is received before shipping, but why should the buyer be the party assuming most of the risk associated with such a transaction - sending his money off to who knows where - in the hope that the guy on the other end will be on the up-and-up?


 I've only dealt with one person over my 15 years of online transactions who deviated from the "pay first" model. He's a guy named Denny (Brnoman on Rimfirecentral) who sells CZ and BRNO items. When I contacted him some years back about some parts, he responded "Okay, I'll send you the parts. If you like them, send $xxx. If not, you can return them."


 I was taken aback. "Really? How do you know I'll pay you?"


 He responded, "I don't. I'll send the parts and hope that you do."

[mechanic]

I've had a few transactions on Graybeards where I received the item before payment got there.  Some good folks here.  Out of all my dealings online with "gun people", I've only been stiffed once, and that was just in a trade for brass.

Ben

[Swampman]

I've had several folks here send the stuff the same day I mailed the funds or even before I mailed the funds.

[Tommyt]

Here on GBO I've sent and received on "the agreement "
I have more than once asked a new-be with no feedback
To send item and I will pay when received
The few times I've asked
I've been denied
I also posted it once under a newbe add and had the post removed
  I trust GBO folks that have been around and a couple other boards
I also look at posts and time of membership
 

[PowPow]

...The buyer and I have agreed to exchange an item for a certain dollar amount; the item has been determined to be of equal value to the payment in both of our minds...

That is a very compelling point that is hard to disagree with.


Perhaps the "funds first" is the seller's safegaurd with GBO's "first I'll take it" rule.
Once the seller puts it up for sale, he has no control over who might buy it, so "funds first" protects the seller from unknown or weak buyer feedback.
The seller may choose to relax the requirement if he is comfortable with the buyers feedback or knows him. I have shipped the same day the buyer says "payment is in the mail" just to get it out of my house.
I conisder the stuff I sell on GBO to be toys I'm through playing with, and of not great enough value to loose sleep over ifI have to eat a transaction from non-payment or shipping loss.
No experience with selling online anywhere else.


Like Tommyt, I look at posts and time of membership and who else they have traded with.

[ultramag44]

There are still some men & women of honor out there!

I bought a wind probe from a vendor over on benchrest central.  He said, "You guys are honest, I'll ship with an invoice, just send me a check."

The kind of men & women that are on gun sites tend to be very honest. Of course there are the few.....

There was a Canadian fellow on rimfire central that offered a set of Redfield Match sights.  A fellow in Kentucky wanted to see them first.  The Canadian fellow shipped them on approval.  The dirt-bag from Kentucky kept the sights and never paid for them!   

We dressed him down publically w/ many posts, showed him up for the dishonorable deadbeat he is.  Someone (not the Canadian fellow) found out the guys business and home addresses and phone #'s and posted them publically. 

[Old Fart]

I've sold and bought a lot of stuff here and on another for where the money and product shipped the same time.
But I've never really done it with anything real expensive. I don't recall ever getting burned on any.

[Old Syko]

I don't understand the concept of getting shafted on a deal in the first place.  As a member of another board I'm familiar with a guy from Indiana who agreed to buy car parts from a member in Texas.  The parts were promptly shipped and the other guy refused to pay.  The guy from Indiana had pictures of the parts in use on his car posted on the same forum along with pictures of himself, his wife and family along with pics of their home.  Soon after he had all his personal info posted and it was all done anonymously.  He not only made good on the deal plus a little but soon sold out and moved away.  I wasn't the good Samaritan but was familiar with the guy who was. 

[ironglow]

  I have bought and sold on this site a few times.  When I bought, I told the seller he could make sure the check cleared before mailing the item.  Most did that although some mailed the item right away.
  Only one time I got "stung" a bit, but I didn't say anything since it could have been an "honest mistake".  It was a .308 H&R barrel.. after receiving it and fitting it, I discovered the former owner had filed the face of the barrel & extractor.  Even though it worked OK, the problem was he apparently rocked the file like a see-saw when filing it.
  I eventually gave it to my gunsmith grandson, who could easily use it .  He was well aware that if he did trade it without repairing it, he must tell the prospective buyer about the problem

[Bugflipper]

On here I just send it out when I get their info. I just like to believe that as a whole the members here are of good people. So far I've not been burned in 15 years by sending it out before the money gets to me. I'm not naive as I've seen that married couple who register under new names quite a bit and swindle folks out of money for brass they are supposed to ship to them. If I get burned one day then shame on me, but I hold folks to a higher standard here than other places and think that is warranted as good folks are in the majority here. I honestly can't say that I dislike one member here.

[williamlayton]

Always one----I'll be IT !
I was raised to trust people and treat them honestly---but always cut the cards.
Now--if it is a small amount, I will sometimes just give it away.
Blessings

[Old Fart]

I don't blame people for waiting.
 
http://www.gboreloaded.com/forums/dishonest-buyers-sellers-traders/
 
 

[Ex 49'er]

I used to do business with someone on eBay and he would send out the item before I paid. He got tired of waiting for my money go get to him before shipping on his end. He lived in Idaho and I live in Cali and my money would take 3-5 days longer to get to him than his stuff took to get to me. In over 2,000 transactions, he is the only one that wouldn't wait for the money. Now it's all paypal first and send when you get around to it.

[bubba]

For me i look at the feedback to determine. Now as fat as businesses ben hubbard akways sent me merchandise with a bill with it.  I buy much more than i sell and prefer a seller wait fir funds to arrive esp when dealing with the mail. Too many variables.  I prefer paypsl. Instant transfer of money and merchandisr is sent out

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