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Offline Spokerider

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Round ball 45 70
« on: June 05, 2013, 04:50:35 AM »
I cast up some .490 pure lead balls for the contender 45 70, sized them first to .462 ......yes, it was a grunt, and then down to .459  ........much easier. Lubed with Lee liquid alox.
 
Now for powder.........Unique? Bullseye? What are you using? Is Bullseye position sensitive?
 
The idea is to have a plinking load that comes as close to the peep sight settings that I have adjusted for the 360gr hunting load. If I can`t get the POI close, even with titrating the powder charge, then the plan was a bust. It would be nice to have a plinking / small game load for in the field for shooting small game or varmints that hits reasonably close to the POI at 25m.
 
Anyone done this?
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #1 on: June 05, 2013, 04:58:16 AM »
Years ago I loaded some swaged round balls in .45-70 cases over 5gr of Unique and shot some Artic Hare.  Very effective at about 50 yards.  They didn't even kick when hit.
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #2 on: June 05, 2013, 09:58:13 AM »
How do you keep them from going all the way down into the case?
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2013, 10:12:22 AM »
They were slightly oversized.  That's 30+ years ago, so I don't remember the exact dia., but they just fit the case slightly below the center of the ball.
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #4 on: June 08, 2013, 01:11:56 AM »
If it were me I'd use Trail Boss, it's designed for such applications.
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #5 on: June 15, 2013, 05:46:23 AM »
With any fast powder taking up so little space I would lift the muzzle to settle it back to the primer, and I WILL NOT use any over-powder wad to hold such in position ever again.
Unique, Red Dot, Bullseye and Trail Boss are all in my inventory and I would try any of them. I would press the ball flush to the case mouth and smear a ring of a stiffish lube in the recess.
As to POI...... only one way to find out if it will be close enough for your needs, but it is easy enough to trial.
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #6 on: November 04, 2020, 05:53:18 AM »
Trail boss powder would be a good choice but I use 25g of H322 behind a 405 grain bullet as my plinker loads.
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2020, 10:27:55 PM »
I loaded some up using Red Dot awhile back.  I don't remember the load I was using but they shot tight groups from my Handi rifle. 

Another load I liked was a cast 220g .452" bullet for the .45acp Teflon tape patched up to .459 and loaded over Unique but I don't remember how much.  I seem to recall less than 10g of unique but don't try it unless you look it up.

I've been wanting one of the Lyman collar button molds for a long time but they never seem to be in stock when I have the money.

Tony
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2020, 10:26:57 AM »
Quote from: geezerbiker on November 13, 2020, 10:27:55 PM
I loaded some up using Red Dot awhile back.  I don't remember the load I was using but they shot tight groups from my Handi rifle. 

Another load I liked was a cast 220g .452" bullet for the .45acp Teflon tape patched up to .459 and loaded over Unique but I don't remember how much.  I seem to recall less than 10g of unique but don't try it unless you look it up.

I've been wanting one of the Lyman collar button molds for a long time but they never seem to be in stock when I have the money.

Tony

NOE, usually has the Collar button molds....
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Re: Round ball 45 70
« Reply #9 on: December 02, 2020, 08:43:49 PM »
I've been tight on funds for a long time or I would have that mold and a few others I want... 

Tony
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