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     China preps military for 'short, sharp war' with Japan, US Navy analyst says  By Perry ChiaramontePublished February 19, 2014 FoxNews.com     
  • china_mission action.jpg  Chinese marine forces in a beach assault during the Mission Action 2013 exercise. (USNI.org)
  • Japan map.jpg  China's PLA forces have been conducting training scenarios where they take over Japan's Senkaku Islands, seen here highlighted in red. (USNI.org)
     China is practicing for a "short, sharp war" with Japan.
That is the assessment of a top U.S. Navy intelligence analyst, who told colleagues that China’s People’s Liberation Army (PLA) is currently conducting training exercises in a practice scenario in which the military takes the Senkaku Islands, near Taiwan.
 
“We witnessed the massive amphibious and cross-military region enterprise,” Capt. James Fannell, deputy chief of staff intelligence and information operations for the U.S. Pacific Fleet (PACFLEET) said at the West 2014 conference on Feb. 13 in San Diego.
“[We] concluded that the PLA has been given the new task to be able to conduct a short, sharp war to destroy Japanese forces in the East China Sea following with what can only be expected a seizure of the Senkakus or even a southern Ryukyu [islands] — as some of their academics say.”
It’s alleged that in the past year, China has increased its military activity, including high-profile actions in the South China Sea as well as combat drills in the south Philippine Sea.
 
“[We] concluded that the PLA has been given the new task to be able to conduct a short, sharp war to destroy Japanese forces in the East China Sea ..."
  - Capt. James Fannell, U.S. Pacific Fleet Fannell's comments were reported in the U.S. Naval Institute News, the navy's official media organ.
“There is growing concern that China’s pattern of behavior in the South China Sea reflects an incremental effort by China to assert control of the area contained in the so-called 9-dash line despite the objections of its neighbors, and despite the lack of any explanation or apparent basis under international law,” Fannell also said.
 
Japan has in recent months accused a Chinese warship of locking its missile-targeting radar onto one of its warships, Fannell noted. China first denied the claim, but later admitted it while downplaying any danger the incident posed.
Retired U.S. Army Lt. Col. Ralph Peters said China has a habit of bullying its neighbors with intimidating military drills, though exercises aimed at Japan are a new and worrisome wrinkle.
“The Chinese have conducted training exercises aimed at Taiwan for decades--but haven't invaded,” Peters, also a Fox News military analyst, told FoxNews.com. “The latest Chinese exercises that appear to rehearse an invasion of the Senkaku Islands are probably in that vein: Military exercises as a show of strength, a closed-fist tool of diplomacy, and, yes, a threat, but not one on which Beijing really desires to act.”
 
Peters adds that the exercises are likely China’s attempt at posturing.
“At present, China would have a great deal to lose by attacking or otherwise provoking a confrontation with Japan,” he said. “At the same time, the Chinese feel they're the regional (and global) rising power and they rather enjoy flexing their muscles.  You might say they're proud of their physique, but don't really want a fight. In that sense, these exercises are a strategic ‘selfie.’”
 
The PLA is not the only one with seemingly aggressive moves as of late. Fannell also mentioned at the West conference that the Chinese coast guard is engaged in “quasi-military actions.”
“Tensions in the South and East China Seas have deteriorated with the Chinese coast guard playing the role of antagonist, harassing China’s neighbors while PLA Navy ships, their protectors, (make) port calls throughout the region promising friendship and cooperation,” he said, adding that China has spent $1.6 million on improvements to outposts in the South China Sea including development of ports, airfields, water purification and surveillance systems.
 
The assessments made at the conference are in stark contrasts to recent US efforts to tighten military-to military ties with China.
The Navy’s head of operations, plans and strategy, Rear Adm. James Foggo said while on the same conference panel that there was a recent successful meeting between U.S. Navy officials and the head of the PLA’s naval forces.
A U.S. delegation also toured PLAN ships and submarines and is working out plans for the Chinese navy to participate in the Rim of the Pacific 2014 (RIMPAC) exercise later this year.
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« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2014, 10:07:37 PM »
  If they do it I predict it will go about as short and sweet as so many others in history who thought they could wage a short war.  "They'll be home by Christmas" is a lie that's been told before.

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« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2014, 11:27:56 PM »
It seems pretty unlikely to me that they would actually go through with something like this.  There is a difference between "preparing" and "training".  Countries like to do a lot of posturing and I would say it's more likely what's going on here.
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Re: Navy analyst, China preparing for a short , sharp war with Japan.
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2014, 12:52:20 AM »
While they call it a Maritime Self Defense Force, Japan does have a real navy...

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« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2014, 08:08:14 AM »
I don't know what the japs can or can't do but I'm betting they would fight with everything they have at their disposal. Would not be pretty. The Chinese hatred of the Japs goes back many years. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2014, 12:08:02 PM »
I don't know what the japs can or can't do but I'm betting they would fight with everything they have at their disposal. Would not be pretty. The Chinese hatred of the Japs goes back many years. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Navy analyst, China preparing for a short , sharp war with Japan.
« Reply #6 on: February 22, 2014, 07:47:41 AM »
I don't know what the japs can or can't do but I'm betting they would fight with everything they have at their disposal. Would not be pretty. The Chinese hatred of the Japs goes back many years. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
If you know your history, can't say I blame them.

 
OSR. YES, I have seen several videos of the rape of nanking and other vids of the atrocities the japs did in China. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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Re: Navy analyst, China preparing for a short , sharp war with Japan.
« Reply #7 on: February 22, 2014, 08:17:20 AM »
I don't know what the japs can or can't do but I'm betting they would fight with everything they have at their disposal. Would not be pretty. The Chinese hatred of the Japs goes back many years. POWDERMAN.  :o :o

having spent some time on Okinawa (the biggest island of the Ryukus) seems i recall seeing archaeological ruins of a Chinese castle on Okinawa called Shimibuku; as i recall the Chinese claim to have inhabited the island in the 12th or 13th century.
 
in their minds (the Chinese) they feel they have a legimate claim on the Ryukus and Tiawan...as we all know...Tiawan was founded by Chaing kai Chek and his nationalist Chinese movement and it formed it's own, independent, nation.
 
but that's somewhat akin to Mexico saying they want California, Texas, Arizona and New Mexico back...or France wanting Louisana back...or Spain wanting Florida back...Argentina wanting the Falklands back...Russia wanting Alaska back...turning Hawaii back to native polynesians...the list goes on...isn't it?
 
 

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Re: Navy analyst, China preparing for a short , sharp war with Japan.
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2014, 08:40:03 AM »
I don't know what the japs can or can't do but I'm betting they would fight with everything they have at their disposal. Would not be pretty. The Chinese hatred of the Japs goes back many years. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
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OSR. YES, I have seen several videos of the rape of nanking and other vids of the atrocities the japs did in China. POWDERMAN.  :o :o
 


senior Japanese army officers admitted that japanese troops raped/murdered 80,000 chinese civilians in the "Rape of Nanking"...
 
that did NOT include what they, the Japanes troops, did in Korea, Singapore, Manchuria, indochina, many, many south pacific islands, the Philippines, Burma, all the way sout to the northern tip of Austraila, Port Moresby, and our northen island chain of the Aluetian islands, Attu.

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Re: Navy analyst, China preparing for a short , sharp war with Japan.
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2014, 09:55:46 AM »
Almost all the countries you have named have more than exceeded the number of atrosities by the Japanese. Some into the millions, think china, indonesia, korea, russia etc.

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« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2014, 12:07:24 PM »
I've often wondered what the outcome might have been if Japan had stayed out of China, and the Germans had stayed out of Russia and concentrated on us and our allies??POWDERMAN.  :o :o
 
 
Battle of China. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUfpeWRigtc
 
 
Rape of Nanking. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YoW2WYdOsvg
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Re: Navy analyst, China preparing for a short , sharp war with Japan.
« Reply #11 on: February 23, 2014, 04:00:04 AM »
I've often wondered what the outcome might have been if Japan had stayed out of China, and the Germans had stayed out of Russia and concentrated on us and our allies??POWDERMAN.  :o :o

My speculations re/were somewhat different.
 
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Re: Navy analyst, China preparing for a short , sharp war with Japan.
« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2014, 04:17:08 AM »
Maybe China can fix that Fukushima problem...........frontloader