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Red Flag Laws?
« on: November 14, 2019, 11:22:45 AM »
Red Flag Laws. Here’s what will happen...
It’s a Sunday night and your family has all gone to bed. You let the dogs back in and lock the deadbolt like you do every night. All the lights are off now except a couple of night lights scattered throughout the house leaving that dim glow throughout your home. It’s bedtime and work and school are going to come early in the morning. You crawl in bed, kiss your wife and drift off to sleep being thankful for the air conditioning that allows you to pull that heavy quilt up over your shoulder despite the fact it’s still 85 degrees outside. A few hours pass...


0200 Monday morning and your wife taps your leg and says, “baby I heard something outside”. As you sit up in bed you hear the dog growling in the living room and you know something isn’t right. You grab that trusty ole 870 and head into the living room. Your wife grabs her 9mm and heads down the hall to the kids rooms just like you have rehearsed. “Good boy” you say as you enter the living room, trying to calm both the dog and your wife just as splinters fly across the room and the front door flys open. “Oh crap!” As you shoulder your weapon and send a load of 00 Buck across your living room and see the perpetrator fall in a heap. Before the “thank God” can even run across your brain, you see a second man coming in the door and you fire again. This time you hear the pop of your wife’s 9mm as she has joined in the fight. It has to be those damn meth heads from down in town! Just then you are consumed by a wall of bullets as you see multiple muzzle flashes from just outside the door and you realize something isn’t right. You turn to yell at your wife to “get down” just in time to see her take a load of buckshot to the face and her brain matter splatter the wall behind her. You feel the burning as 5.56 bullets Riddle your body. One clips your spine as you’re scrambling away and paralyzes your lower body. The last thing you see before you bleed out is a SWAT guy from your local PD holding your teenage daughter on the floor with a knee in her back as she screams and cry’s because she just watched her parents being murdered.


Why did this happen? You’re no criminal. You’re a Conservative and an honest family man. Your wife is a school teacher and your daughters are on honor roll. Why did this happen?


Well two days ago, you and your wife went down to welcome the new neighbors to the community. Your wife made them some of her “world famous” cookies and you invited them to church on Sunday. Later that afternoon, you got a friend request on Facebook from your new neighbor, which you gladly accepted. They seemed a little odd, but in the few minutes you talked they were pleasant enough. The next day while you and your family sat in church, your new neighbor scrolled through your Facebook profile. He saw that “Trump 2020” post and got infuriated. See, he’s a staunch liberal and he hates your kind. The next thing he sees are the hunting pictures you took last fall when your daughter bagged her first buck. Now he’s seething with fury because he is wholeheartedly against the “slaughter of innocent animals”. Next he sees your post from the last range day with your buddy and sees those scary black assault weapons on the table and that does it! He has to do something about the racist domestic terrorist living next door. He picks up the phone, calls the local Sheriffs Office and reports you as a threat under the new Red Flag law. The SO follows their SOP’s and conducts a no knock warrant because you have now been denied due process and you are considered guilty until proven innocent.


Now you, your lovely wife and two deputies have been killed for nothing. Your daughter will have absolute hell for the rest of her life. She will never be that successful person you dreamed for her to be because of the mental tragedy caused from seeing her parents murdered. The local news paper will report that you were killed after firing on and killing two deputies and that “over a thousand rounds of ammo and 22 guns were confiscated from your residence”.


Oh, those two deputies were just following orders. They left behind families as well and had served their community for over a decade. They didn’t know you were a stand-up guy with a great family. They weren’t allowed time to investigate things under due process. They were told you had threatened your neighbor and were out in the street waving an AR15 around.


This is the reality of Red Flag gun laws. Innocent people will lose their lives. Red Flag laws will be used for petty and vengeful reasons without merit.


Do not forget that ALL gun laws are an infringement of your rights!


credit to: Michael Zwicky
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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2019, 09:11:48 AM »
We need to remind our President and other conservatives in DC,we will not tolerate any infringement on the second amendment.
I back our President on most issues. He needs to listen to we the people more and give less attention to career politicians from both sides of the isle when it comes to issues that pertain to our rights given by our Creator and our forefathers wrote into man made laws when forming this Republic. Red Flag Laws are contrary to the constitution, and a free Republic.
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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2019, 10:52:49 AM »


A message from the Brevard county Sheriff.

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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2019, 10:53:22 AM »
Sadly, your scenario is spot on.  :(
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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2019, 11:11:10 AM »
I agree. The one's calling in these red flags will have no skin in the game. I think $10,000 and 5 years in jail (WOP) to anyone making a false claim should be strictly enforced otherwise no red flag laws. Or better yet = no red flag laws.
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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2019, 11:52:40 AM »
Yea! and what ever happened to facing our accusers in a court of law.These laws like this red flag law is only about the powers that be stripping us of any protection what so ever. The law should never be about proving ones innocence. Only proving someones guilt. And ONLY in a trial.


Can you just imagine how Senator Rand Paul's next door neighbor would use such a law?
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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2019, 12:10:38 PM »
Why didn't the Deputy's just stand out in the street with a blow horn and tell him to come out? 
Instead of doing a SWAT team smash down? He wasn't allowed to give his side of the story.
I'm sure he had telephone, get his number and call him up.


LE would be just as guilty in this situation. Total incompetence. This sounds like Randy Weaver all over again.

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« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2019, 12:25:52 PM »
We had a situation like this in town before all this red flag BS. That's how the police handled it. He just came
out with his hands on his head. There wasn't any trouble. I dunno, I'm glad our Deputys and Cops aren't like that.
" now Chester, just put the rifle down and come out here and talk to us".

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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #8 on: November 16, 2019, 02:17:11 PM »
Why didn't the Deputy's just stand out in the street with a blow horn and tell him to come out? 
Instead of doing a SWAT team smash down? He wasn't allowed to give his side of the story.
I'm sure he had telephone, get his number and call him up.


LE would be just as guilty in this situation. Total incompetence. This sounds like Randy Weaver all over again.


LEO's have "Qualified immunity" which is just another way of saying "We are the Police, We can do what we want to you
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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2019, 02:50:51 PM »
Why didn't the Deputy's just stand out in the street with a blow horn and tell him to come out? 
Instead of doing a SWAT team smash down? He wasn't allowed to give his side of the story.
I'm sure he had telephone, get his number and call him up.


LE would be just as guilty in this situation. Total incompetence. This sounds like Randy Weaver all over again.


LEO's have "Qualified immunity" which is just another way of saying "We are the Police, We can do what we want to you.


Oh my. Some of them are just bat s**t crazy.

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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #10 on: November 16, 2019, 04:31:47 PM »
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Oh my. Some of them are just bat s**t crazy.


Yes they are, and they have a badge and gun and are not afraid you shoot your ass if you do not OBEY them.
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2019, 04:40:36 AM »
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Oh my. Some of them are just bat s**t crazy.


Yes they are, and they have a badge and gun and are not afraid you shoot your ass if you do not OBEY them.


Look them up about who they were in high school. Sometimes some of them were considered to be the bullies.
Even in LE they don't seem to last very long as soon the Department figures that out. And it usually doesn't
take very long, like beating their wives and intimidating people over the simplest of matters.


Unprofessional conduct I believe is what it is called. NMSP will not hire them if they have that on they're record.
I don't think Texas DPS will either. LEOs can get black balled from a bad job reference.


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« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2019, 06:45:33 AM »


here is an example of the mentality of "some" of the bad actors.
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Re: Red Flag Laws?
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2019, 07:28:35 AM »
He sure could use a few less doughnuts, Porky Pig lol. Maybe that's just a sugar rage.