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https://youtu.be/XAhF6obK6eY


Concealed Carry Instructor Mickey works with experienced police officer Dave Sharp, demonstrating five scenarios for getting pulled over in a routine traffic stop. From the viewpoint of a concealed carry citizen, they discuss how to conduct yourself and most importantly and MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHAT NOT TO DO.
Scenarios:
1) The Jerk (0:15) Mickey shows the worst thing you can do in an ill-tempered stand-off with a local patrol officer
2) Ignorant Citizen (1:06) Mickey plays the role of a nervous law-abiding citizen who makes the traffic stop more complicated than it needs to be.
3) Bad Cop (2:25) Dave plays the role of a bad cop.
4) The Example (4:03) Mickey and Dave show how to do everything right. Getting pulled over CCW can still go smooth.
5) AR-15 on the Dash (6:53) The last scenario Mickey pushes the limits of the law… reckless actions, however legal, can still create a lot of hassle with a traffic cop.

Following the five role playing scenarios Mickey Schuch and Police Officer Dave Sharp talk give tips for individuals with CCW / Concealed Carry on interacting with other cops.


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I rarely get stopped, but the easiest, and smartest/safest way is; give the officer your driver license, and concealed carry permit, at the same time,  and give him the lead on what he wants you to do next.
Nuthin complicated, or dangerous about that.
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I mentioned here about a month ago, how I was travelling back from Fort Ticonderoga, and was stopped at about 02:30 hours, in a college town about 35 miles from home.

   I did just as Dee said..just handed him my driver's license and CCW permit together.  The officer right off, said "I don't need this", and handed my CCW permit back.

  I suspect he deduced that when applying for a CCW permit here, it requires signatures of 4 solid citizens, vouching for your character. A little something that perhaps sets him a bit more at ease, especially during these crazy days.
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In Texas it's a background check, and complete criminal history check. I can  buy a handgun paperwork and all in about 10 to 15 minutes.
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In Texas it's a background check, and complete criminal history check. I can  buy a handgun paperwork and all in about 10 to 15 minutes.

  ..And in that case at least the permit holder has been checked out.  I suspect that is more reassuring than trying to deal with some Antifa or some "sovereign citizen", playing highway attorney.
  I forgot to mention that of course, our county clerk does a complete background criminal check....if you have one..you don't get one.. 
  Of course, by that time, you have already signed the paper which asks if you have a criminal background, so there could be more hot water waiting.
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When I first got my CCW I checked with some local law enforcement and invariably this was the response for a CCW traffic stop.

In Pa there is no requirement to declare a firearm on your person, however, it is wise to roll the windows down, turn on the dome light, all of which allows the officer an unobstructed view of the inside, and keep your hands on the steering wheel while declaring you are legally carrying a concealed weapon. Might seem extreme, but these are dangerous times.
 
As ironglows mentioned, very often the CCW isn't examined, and you retain your gun during the stop.
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In NM your vehicle including motorcycles is considered to be part of your home. You can carry a gun anywhere in your vehicle, in plain sight or not, legally. There is no duty to inform.

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In NM your vehicle including motorcycles is considered to be part of your home. You can carry a gun anywhere in your vehicle, in plain sight or not, legally. There is no duty to inform.

Same here, but concealed carry holders in Texas are required to offer their Concealed Carry "IF" they are carrying at the time.

I personally don't think it wise however, to leave a handgun in plain sight, and within reach when being pulled over.
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"I personally don't think it wise however, to leave a handgun in plain sight, and within reach when being pulled over."
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  In some jurisdictions, that could be construed as "brandishing".
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In MI its the law that when pulled over if you have a ccw you inform the officer imediately. What ive found is most of them are pro gun around here and it seems when i tell them that i have a ccw and a loaded gun they usually respect that and send you on your way. I was pulled over earlier this summer for going 78 in a 55 and had 5 guns laying on the back seat. Three of them ar15s that technicaly should have been cased and were even loaded. I told the officer there was four guns in the truck and i had a ccw. He asked where i was going and i told him i was going to the range. He even asked if he could look at the ARs because he just bought one and was interested in what optics to buy. Took a look and told me to have fun. He knew i was a responsible citizen. Another big advantage here is i know about every tropper that patrols the area. City, county and state. Theres a couple state guys i dont know because they closed our state police posts and combined it with on in a neighboring town but ive yet to have a problem with any of them. Heck the sheriff is one of my best friends and i donate practice ammo for his troops because they dont have enough in there budget to buy it. City cops use my range for qualification. Never heard of a single law abiding ccw permit holder thats had ANY problem with the police up here. Between ccws and hunting about 75 percent of the locals they pull over have a gun in there vehicle. Only ones i kind of worry about are the dnr officers. There much more strict about having guns cased ect. But they only patrol the dirt roads.
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Vermont, Maine, NH are constitutional carry states. As I understand it you do not need any CCW permit to carry a loaded handgun on your person,  open or concealed, while in or outside of your vehicle; and likewise if such handgun is stashed somewhere in your vehicle that's Ok. But not Ok for loaded long guns due to fish and game regulations.

However CCW permits are available if you plan to carry in other states having reciprocity.

That's my understanding so far. So while stopped by an LEO would you mention, or not mention, you're carrying???
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Oklahoma is a 2nd Amendment state. Carry any way you want to, no permit required.
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  I presume that like many of us, and especially an experienced LEO, he can read much about us by just a short conversation.
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