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Offline greenjeans

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« on: June 17, 2004, 02:33:53 PM »
No problem with the Glock at all. I carry a Model 27 at times. For me, it's a little thick for IWB, but I'm pretty small. I really like the Forbus paddle holster for regular carry with it. Just make sure whatever holster you might get protects the trigger at all time. I would look hard at the 36 with the single stack magazine and thinner grip. Revolvers don't have external safeties, either, and they are carried all the time. Just need to know your weapon. Glocks are great pistols, just ugly.
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« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2004, 02:36:41 PM »
Once you train yourself to keep your trigger-finger outside of the guard you will be OK. I use a Glock Sport/Combat Beltslide,a Fobus Tac-Elite Paddle ,and a Wellsmade Kydex IWB. Have had a AD when I first got a Glock 19, unfortunately. Been yrs. though. Get used to putting your trigger finger on the disassembly catch. Safest place to put it. Til your'e ready to shoot of course. Also had good luck with a Desantis Kydex holster. Also,if you still are worried about AD's put a NY1 module in and it gives the Glock a revolver-like trigger pull albeit short. Not as easy to AD, but the trigger pull goes from 5.5 lbs. to 7.5 lbs. so it is a little harder to work with. Also, you can have a manual safety put in your gun and have a cocked and locked pistol with Glock reliability. Your call, compadre.

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« Reply #2 on: July 16, 2004, 03:10:33 AM »
I normally carry a 23 with a Lonewolf 9mm barrel in it,it shoots 9mm better than .40's and I can hit better with GoldDots in 9 over the .40.I have had problems with my 19 not ejecting some 9mm rounds but the 23 has no problems at all.
Has any of you had a problem with Blazer ammo in factory barrels?
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« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2004, 04:05:25 PM »
I heard you couldn't convert a 40 to a 9mm.  I understood you could convert it to a 357 Sig but not a 9 I'm so confused.

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« Reply #4 on: July 17, 2004, 04:57:12 AM »
I also had the same concerns about carrying my Glock 26's with one in the chamber. First off I used Saf-T-Bloks that fit behind the trigger so the trigger couldn't be moved ... but the Blok could be popped out quickly and easily. That worked until a fellow installed the New York trigger with a 12.5 lb pull (Thanks Vic!) making the Blok unnecessary. I know 12.5lbs is a lot but my 26's are for self defense and not for target shooting... my target guns end up with very light triggers because target shooting is a whole 'nuther ball game.

I thought 12.5 lbs would be too much but shooting experience on the range proved different. The trigger still has it's original silky smooth travel even though trigger pull is firm, and my center of mass groupings at 7 yds remained the same as they were before ....... but the best part is now the initial trigger travel can be taken up but when the trigger contacts the firing pin release the trigger has a definate stop.... and just a little more pressure is needed to fire. I like that because it gives me a for sure notice that when I squeeze just a bit more it will go off but I can hold that trigger right at that point if I wish. It won't go bang until I tell it to. No other gun I own has that definate stop in the trigger.

Ok...... I know someone will say pulling the trigger is telling the gun to go bang so don't pull the trigger if I don't want it to go bang. That isn't what I mean. Most guns don't tell me exactly where during the trigger pull it will go off but my 26's do now with the 12.5lb pull.

Also....... with the 12.5 trigger pull I have no qualms carrying with one in the chamber in a pocket (just the gun in there.. nothing else!) without a pocket holster, or in a pocket with a pocket holster, or IWB with or without a holster, or OWB in a holster or just shoved inside my belt.

I must agree with those who have posted concerning learning to keep that trigger finger out of the trigger guard/away from the trigger! I've not had any ND's (commonly called AD's but there aren't any such things as AD's since a discharge always is because the person screwed up somehow) with my Glocks. Did have an ND with a .22 semi auto I was absolutely sure was not loaded (I didn't double check it therefore my fault) while getting ready to clean it. My mistakes were double with that .22 ND... I didn't double check it and I stuck my finger into the trigger guard.
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« Reply #5 on: July 17, 2004, 07:20:54 PM »
Mattkc, I don't know who told you the .40 can't be converted to a 9mm but Lonewolf Dist. has the barrels in their catalogue,it is a drop in barrel,I bought the stainless and I shoot lead bullets for practice and I have always heard not to do that with factory Glock barrels allthough I have shot many lead bullets with them.I want to try the .357Sig in the 23,but haven't seen a conversion yet.The reason I bought the 9 barrel for my 23 and for my 22 is so when I go to the range I shoot 9mm or .40,all the pistols are the same caliber and I don't have to sort brass.I have wanted to convert the 17 and 19 to .40 but I haven't tried that yet.Since I have extra barrels,but I don't know if the 9mm recoil springs are the same as the .40.Anyway it can be done(.40 to 9) try it,it is not expensive.
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« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2004, 03:11:36 PM »
As a further aside,the .40 to 9 works with only a barrel exchange,the extractor seats into the 9mm rim fine and I have never had a failure to extract with over 1000 rounds through 2 guns.The 9mm to .40 requires a slide in addition to a barrel.
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« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2004, 05:07:01 PM »
MattKC,you probably are talking about the fact that a factory Glock 9mm barrel will not work in a Glock .40 slide because the 9mm barrel is smaller in diameter than a .40 barrel. I'm talking about factory Glock barrels,now.

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« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2004, 03:01:50 PM »
Chris,
If you are uncomfortable with the lack of a mechinal safety on the Glock, nothing we can say will change that. If you like the XD, (not my bag) at least it has a grip safety. I frequently carry a Glock 36 IWB with the belt clip, without undue concern. Just remember, if you don't pull the trigger it won't fire!
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« Reply #9 on: July 23, 2004, 05:27:45 PM »
strider72 and bgjohn

Enough of the rules violations. One more time and you're out. No personal attacks or name calling. Act like adults or move on. Offensive posts have been deleted.

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« Reply #10 on: July 24, 2004, 12:11:15 PM »
My apologies to the Graybeard Outdoors website and its members.

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« Reply #11 on: July 24, 2004, 12:50:32 PM »
Apology accepted. Thanks.

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« Reply #12 on: July 24, 2004, 02:27:27 PM »
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I would look hard at the 36 with the single stack magazine and thinner grip.


The Glock model 36 (45 acp) is the same thickness as the Glock 9mm, 40 S&W and 357 Sig's. There 1.18 inches thick.
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« Reply #13 on: July 24, 2004, 02:30:39 PM »
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i'm not sure if i want a 9mm or a .45acp.  i'd like to have more than 6 rounds available, so that really eliminates the 36.

I wasn't either, so I went with the Glock 22 and 27 both are 40 S&W. The 40 S&W kinda splits the middle of both!
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« Reply #14 on: July 25, 2004, 02:35:35 AM »
Cknight98
How times change. I carried a 5 shot snubbie without a reload for 20 yrs and never felt undergunned. Now days most folks feel like they need at least 15 rds in the gun, plus at leas one spare mag. I feel just fine with my mdl36 Glock with one spare mag. Of course nowdays my P-3AT is always with me as well. As the threat level increases due to the real threat of terrorism in our country, maybe we all need to rethink our carry choices. We could learn a lot from the Israelis there!
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« Reply #15 on: July 26, 2004, 03:07:43 PM »
Well,my opinion has taken a drastic turn. My $500 Glock 19 with $80ish hicap mag was stolen out of my Cherokee. So now I am a Taurus Ultralite .38 spl. (around $239 in NE Alabama)fan. For the price of my Glock and its hicap,I can buy two Taurus 85 Ultralites with speedloaders and maybe some ammo. Have one in the Cherokee or my hip and one in the safe. Yes,I still want another Glock 19,but this experience has altered my views a little. Drifting from the thread a little,sorry. As far as worrying about the Glock/XD/CZ100/Sigma lack of external safety,if you put it in a quality holster and just carry it,there should be no problem. I mean,short of drawing it in self-defense or taking it to the range,you shouldn't have your finger near the trigger,just like carrying a revolver or HiPower/1911.