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Offline Ranger99

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New fangled and old fashioned
« on: May 15, 2021, 03:14:22 PM »
Every time I'm inside or
near a store with hunting or
fishing stuff, I try to make
a detour and look at the
goods for sale if there's
extra time to do so.
I've not perused the fishing
aisles so much until lately
though, because I've got
so much stuff I've bought
in the past that there's
just a very few items I've
needed to get back up
to speed.
I was in one of the places
a couple of days ago, and
a couple of twenty somethings
were picking out some pre fab
trotlines to use (assuming for
this weekend) and the guy that
was "in charge " was speaking
aloud to the other one about
what to pick out and how to use
it and such. He was talking about
yoofloob video this and that and
I felt like neither one had ever been
trotlining and my brain was sending
warning signals to me to say something
to them since if you're not cautious, a
trotline can take your life like a big rattlesnake.

I didn't say anything to them, but I can't
help but wonder if I should have

My own father died when I was young
and he was way too young, but other
elders in my life picked up the slack.
Do younger people these days not
learn hunting and fishing from older
men in their life, or is yoofloob the
outdoor education center now?
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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #1 on: May 15, 2021, 04:02:12 PM »
I learned from the old men in my life. I'd had usually rather be with them than the boys my age.
What I've since learned as age has crept up on me is: the older I get the dumber I must appear. Some want to know what I know, but most don't. They already know everything. That holds true even with my own two grown sons in some cases.
I used to think I knew better than my dad. I was wrong.
The most important thing for me that's hard to get used to nowadays is, the younger generations' word is no good, and they assume mine isn't.
People that know me, know it is.
Did you do the right thing by keeping quiet? Who knows. But you didn't walk away insulted.
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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #2 on: May 15, 2021, 08:10:51 PM »
I never got the chance to take my grandsons hunting but I took them shooting and fishing every chance I got.  One of them for sure is into guns and fishing the other not as much but I planted a seed that I hope will grow within him...

Now I can't really hunt.  I go sometimes but all I really can do is set up my folding chair a short hop from my truck and hope for a stupid deer wander by...

Tony

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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #3 on: May 16, 2021, 01:47:59 AM »
I never got the chance to take my grandsons hunting but I took them shooting and fishing every chance I got.  One of them for sure is into guns and fishing the other not as much but I planted a seed that I hope will grow within him...

Now I can't really hunt.  I go sometimes but all I really can do is set up my folding chair a short hop from my truck and hope for a stupid deer wander by...

Tony
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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #4 on: May 16, 2021, 02:39:36 AM »
Not everyone has the benefit of reaping the experience of an older generation. My own Dad, a fine man, was not an outsdoorsman, led a quiet life, smoked Pall Mall cigarettes and passed away quietly at 78. Anything that i have learned about shooting and hunting, i learned by first reading and then doing. The doing part was ably assisted along the way by other fellows on the shooting line, the Trap field or met in the woods and fields.
I think that I learned as much about hunting and fishing from reading Robert Ruark’s “The Old Man and the Boy” as anything else that I have done.
Funny how things come around. I ended a session at the range yesterday by being the “old guy” for three young men who were sighting in their ARs. I was shooting my Gold Cup, practicing the precision target at 50 yards. They were next to me also at 50. They were missing their target. I watched and when i could stand it no longer, I piped up a question...”.which aperture are you using the large one or the small one?”  (The large one) “Try the little one and move the sight closer to your eye.”
But I thought.....”no, try what I said” . The did. Lo, the shots started falling into the ten ring. Now we are pals. It was a feel good moment.

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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #5 on: May 16, 2021, 03:02:28 AM »
For me anyway, nothing replaces the first hand experience learned from an elder. That being said, the internet is a wealth of information. I use YouTube alot and have repaired numerous guns, auto's, appliances etc. Not much I can't figure out on my own when it comes to mechanical things, but a quick search on YouTube has saved me a ton of time and money every time I've used it.

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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #6 on: May 16, 2021, 05:45:31 PM »
I never got the chance to take my grandsons hunting but I took them shooting and fishing every chance I got.  One of them for sure is into guns and fishing the other not as much but I planted a seed that I hope will grow within him...

Now I can't really hunt.  I go sometimes but all I really can do is set up my folding chair a short hop from my truck and hope for a stupid deer wander by...

Tony

Lots of years ago when I was pretty young,
one of my older relatives was in not too
good of health, and couldn't go out hunting,
but wanted to go just to be going.
He was sitting on an old wooden gear box
like we used before Rubbermaid tubs, and
eating a biscuit.  A nice deer ran right through
the middle of the camp within feet of him,
and he snatched up a gun and popped it
right there.  Got the only deer that weekend
while we were all out in the woods.
You never know
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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #7 on: May 17, 2021, 02:16:54 AM »
Not everyone has the benefit of reaping the experience of an older generation. My own Dad, a fine man, was not an outsdoorsman, led a quiet life, smoked Pall Mall cigarettes and passed away quietly at 78. Anything that i have learned about shooting and hunting, i learned by first reading and then doing. The doing part was ably assisted along the way by other fellows on the shooting line, the Trap field or met in the woods and fields.
I think that I learned as much about hunting and fishing from reading Robert Ruark’s “The Old Man and the Boy” as anything else that I have done.
Funny how things come around. I ended a session at the range yesterday by being the “old guy” for three young men who were sighting in their ARs. I was shooting my Gold Cup, practicing the precision target at 50 yards. They were next to me also at 50. They were missing their target. I watched and when i could stand it no longer, I piped up a question...”.which aperture are you using the large one or the small one?”  (The large one) “Try the little one and move the sight closer to your eye.”
But I thought.....”no, try what I said” . The did. Lo, the shots started falling into the ten ring. Now we are pals. It was a feel good moment.

Same boat as you Pete. My father did not hunt and wasn't a fisherman either. Luckily he took me fishing anyway when I was a kid which developed my love for the outdoors. I didn't take up hunting until I was in my early 30's and moved to the country. I've had to teach myself everything and I'm still learning. I read a lot of books and magazines and found GBO years ago looking for info on hunting. I found some friends who hunt as well so that's been helpful. Now that I have a pair of labradors I've found that I would rather hunt with them than any other type of hunting so I've turned into an upland bird/waterfowl/fall turkey/squirrel hunter (my dogs will retrieve squirrels).
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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #8 on: May 17, 2021, 02:19:26 AM »
If the current trend continues, there
will probably be a lot more small game
hunters like there used to be years ago
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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #9 on: May 17, 2021, 02:37:38 AM »
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  Interesting, how so many of us find a niche that we like most.  DB likes hunting with his labs, others are nearly exclusively fishermen.
  My Dad was into both hunting and fishing...he got his share of deer, trout and muskies, but his main fun was coon hunting.  He had some very good Airedales and hounds.

  As I grew up and work life took more an more of my time..I had to choose between hunting or fishing.  Hunting got the nod.
  I have had reasonable success with big game, chiefly deer..and some predators, and did some fox & woodchucks with my Jack Russells, along with plenty of coon with my Airedales.

  I guess I giot as much fun as any, hunting woodchucks..I like the "sneak & snipe" method, where i must sneak up close enough to kill them with a rimfire.  I don't consider the long range centerfire shots so much hunting as it is just killing.
  But to each his own..there is definitely a high level of skill, picking off a woodchuck at 500 yards or more.

   More recently, perhaps due to the all round comfort level, I find myself leaning more toward rimfires, along with more just shooting and less killing..age effects, I guess.. ;) ;D

  Yes, I was privileged to introduce my grand kids to hunting & shooting, but their Dad also guided them much in that direction.  The great grandsons are learning from their Dads in turn.
"They have the guns and therefore we are for peace and for reformation through the ballot. When we have the guns, then it will be through the bullet"      (Saul Alinsky) ...hero of the left..

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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #10 on: May 17, 2021, 07:17:56 AM »
I took my oldest grandson hunting and fishing a bunch and his little sister was included in a lot of the fishing. The two others were off in Germany or pretty far away until they were pretty good sized and I took the oldest fishing some after they moved back close. The youngest has no interest in either. He's a aspy, smart and a good guy, but they follow a different drummer than most of us do.

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Re: New fangled and old fashioned
« Reply #11 on: May 17, 2021, 09:56:11 AM »
I have three kids, and took them all hunting and fishing when they were growing up. Nowadays I only have one that still likes to hunt and two that like to fish. They're all young adults now so I'm grateful for any time I get to spend with them in the woods these days.
"Necessity is the plea for every infringement of human freedom. It is the argument of tyrants; it is the creed of slaves."

---- William Pitt (the Younger), Speech in the House of Commons, November 18, 1783