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.22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« on: May 05, 2021, 10:39:32 AM »
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By Elwood Shelton -April 15, 2021

Rimfire ammunition tailored for self-defense? Federal is shooting for it with .22 LR Punch ammo.

How Federal Tailors .22LR Punch For Self-Defense:

* It's 29-grain bullet is engineered to leave a 2-inch barrel at 1,070 fps.

* Bullet's profile and composition designed for maximum penetration and minimal deformation.

* Nickel-plated case ensures smooth feeding in nearly any handgun or rifle.

Passions run high discussing the merits of the little .22 LR for self-defense. One side contends the rimfire is too small and too weak to reliably neutralize the threat. While the other claims, despite its shortcomings the caliber is one any person can master to deliver accuracy and deadly fire. (If you’re interested in more on this debate, Richard Mann wrote an in-depth article on .22 LR for self-defense.) While it certainly won’t end the debate, one of the nation’s largest ammunition manufacturers is siding with the latter group, introducing a .22 LR load specially tailored for defensive use.



Federal Premium recently unveiled .22 LR Punch ammunition, an option the company calls the first viable self-defense option in the caliber.

“Self-defense isn’t one size fits all. So, whether shooters want to carry a .22 LR handgun as a backup gun, do not feel comfortable with centerfire pistols, or simply want to get more versatility from a rimfire handgun,” said Federal’s Rimfire Product Manager, Dan Compton, “Punch makes the .22 LR cartridge a viable defensive choice for the first time ever.”

Federal Punch Ammo Basics

Most ammo geeks are familiar with the Federal’s Punch line. Released in 2020, the defensive handgun ammunition was specifically designed for the commercial market, a break from the past. Previously, all Federal’s defensive ammo was developed with law enforcement in mind. The difference, other lines are engineered to pass FBI barrier tests, while Punch was optimized for the FBI bare gel and covered gel penetration tests. Two factors spurred this move: cost per round and likely scenarios faced by average armed citizens. The thought is, every day CCW holders don’t often shoot through car doors.

Among the main changes found in Punch ammo is the use of a softer lead core that didn’t need to hold together through plywood, windshields and sheet metal. Though it’s not downloaded. Velocities are what you’d expect for defensive ammo. Only, it has gone through rigorous laboratory testing required for law enforcement fodder.



22 LR Punch Features & Performance

As to the .22 LR Punch, it’s pretty unique, particularly it's projectile. It utilizes a 29-grain nickel-plated lead-core bullet, with a flat nose and a heavy jacket. Essentially, the bullet is designed to hang together and minimally expand, thus increasing penetration depth. As to ensuring the bullet bores an appropriate distance, Federal soups up .22 LR Punch, with the ammo listed at 1,070 fps from a 2-inch barrel. Even if for those who don’t subscribe to the rimfire as an appropriate self-defense option, the offering is intriguing nonetheless.

What does it cost? Federal lists the full retail price of .22 LR Punch at $9.99 for a box of 50. Pretty cheap to upgrade a rimfire for a self-defense role.

For more information on Federal .22 LR Punch, please visit federalpremium.com.



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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #1 on: May 05, 2021, 11:39:59 AM »
Beats a pocket knife. I've personally seen numerous 22 gunshot wounds. Most self inflicted intentionally, 2 or 3 accidental, and about all were fatal. The later was because of my job description. If accidental and non fatal, field officers usually handled the investigation/reports.

My point is. If you put one in the right place, it'll get the job done.
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2021, 12:57:58 PM »
I’ll use my red rider. It’ll put your eye out. We have all heard what the 22 will do and some of us actually know what it will do. In this case. Bigger and faster is better. My opinion...

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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #3 on: May 05, 2021, 03:28:24 PM »
I just got a brick,  have shot though 50 rounds.  Ran it in my custom charger and amag through my 22a. All functioned well without a hitch.  Bought it after a review from 22Plinkster.  The custom charger is specifically built as a close contact defense gun. Penetration with head shots will do the trick every time.
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #4 on: June 15, 2021, 12:05:43 PM »
Now that I have no legs I have reconsidered my home defence. Now my go to beside my chair is my S&W AR 15-22 with 25 round mag and .41 Mag sittin on the window sill. My feeling is @ less than 10 feet they will be spraying like a shower head before they get to the tv then if I need to put them out of MY misery 210 grain XTP will get some work. Kurt
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2021, 12:52:00 PM »
NEVER heard of them, definitely never seen them. CCI VELOCITORS is the one I depend on for my wifes carry gun. I'll look up a vid on performance. At $10 a box I can't see these federals selling very well. CHARLIE :o
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2021, 01:16:08 PM »
That's not much more than the normal stuff is selling for these days IF you can find it in stock. Just the regular run of mill cheaper rimfire ammo is going for 8 to 12 cents a round in the e-mails I get daily showing stock of it.



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Mr. Charles Glenn “Charlie” Nelson, age 73, of Payneville, KY passed away Thursday, October 14, 2021 at his residence. RIP Charlie, we'll will all miss you. GB

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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #8 on: June 26, 2021, 03:05:14 PM »
I have seen several videos that show speeds and penetration that works for me.  It runs with out a hitch in my custom charger.  I also ran a magazine through my S&W 22a with out a problem.
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #9 on: June 26, 2021, 10:24:06 PM »
looks to me kind of like a keith 22lr. Seems maybe handguners who preached for years that deap straight penetration with something like a keith killed way better then it should have. Killed as well as fancy hps that give wide shallow penetration.
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2021, 01:48:38 PM »
Paco Kelly sells a tool that makes a wide flat nose out of a ordinary 22 Lr.

My wife uses a 32 H&R magnum S&W, but the mags got to hurt her too much so I just flatten the nose on my grinder on the lead 32 longs.

To make it simple. A wide flat point is just more reliable than most HPs.
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2021, 08:50:36 AM »
Paco Kelly sells a tool that makes a wide flat nose out of a ordinary 22 Lr.

My wife uses a 32 H&R magnum S&W, but the mags got to hurt her too much so I just flatten the nose on my grinder on the lead 32 longs.

To make it simple. A wide flat point is just more reliable than most HPs.
My wife carries a 357. I have her practice with light 38 loads then load her revolver and speed loaders with +p’s or magnum depending where we’re going. I don’t think she will notice the recoil with the adrenaline rush she will get if she actually uses it for defense. Ymmv.

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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2021, 09:54:01 AM »
Paul Harrell has a good video
on yoofloob testing this ammo.
Unfortunately, I can't make it link.
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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2021, 10:10:24 AM »
CCI Small Game ammo is same concept and has been around 20 or more years. Meplat is a bit less but not by much and does same thing. It kills squirrels as well as HPs do but with less meat damage.

I always keep some on hand. I used to have, and maybe still do but if so have no clue where it is, a tool to use to flatten the tips on regular .22 LR solids.



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Re: .22 LR Punch: Does The Defense Rimfire Ammo Stack Up?
« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2021, 10:13:33 AM »
https://youtu.be/PlL3uBoTrM8


Here’s the link to Paul’s video.

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2021, 10:19:03 AM »
It's worth watching IMO

Thanks for posting
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2021, 12:52:30 PM »
I watched a video last week where a guy was shooting punch through a 10/22 and was getting in the high 1650s.
They are faster than a stinger in a rifle.
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