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Offline phalanx

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Is America at war with itself ?
« on: November 04, 2021, 06:27:53 PM »
It certainly seems like we are.
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #1 on: November 04, 2021, 06:39:52 PM »
Has been for some time.
Probably for longer than I've
been aware.
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #2 on: November 04, 2021, 06:47:08 PM »
For decades it was the left fighting a guerilla war with the naive population being blind while electing Rinos who could not care less.

Thank God we got Obama and Trump to expose reality to the naive masses.

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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2021, 06:50:02 PM »
The general public will only truly
care when the electronics quit and
food and water is scarce.
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #4 on: November 04, 2021, 07:56:35 PM »
The general public will only truly
care when the electronics quit and
food and water is scarce.

Probably one of the most accurate comments on this board.

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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #5 on: November 05, 2021, 01:44:54 AM »
I would have to agree.
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #6 on: November 10, 2021, 07:36:59 AM »
Yep, it has to get personal before most will pay attention. Problem with that? It's usually too late to matter. This Covid crap could be a blessing in disguise. Things are moving fast now.
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #7 on: November 10, 2021, 11:37:01 AM »
Yep, it has to get personal before most will pay attention. Problem with that? It's usually too late to matter. This Covid crap could be a blessing in disguise. Things are moving fast now.
Yeah,  pretty much
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bilge pump as the water reaches his chin
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #8 on: November 10, 2021, 01:01:21 PM »
We have a nice mini awakening with parents vs authoritarian school boards.

Add runaway inflation, fallout from vax mandates, shortages from supply chains to the school culture wars.... pretty soon you’ll have the perfect middle class storm.

Course, this is just speculation.
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2021, 05:38:13 AM »
PEWs view of what is actually going on in our country. Not as simple as some make it out to be. There are nuances in people's beliefs.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10183647/Americas-NINE-political-tribes-according-Pew-Research.html

America's NINE new divided political tribes: US voters are made up of groups including the 'Outsider Left', 'Establishment Liberals', 'Committed Conservatives' and the 'Ambivalent Right', research reveals 
A report released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center has segmented U.S. voters into nine political tribes
Four of the groups lean left, four lean right, and then there are the 'stressed sideliners,' who have a minimal interest in politics
Pew surveyed 10,221 adults this July, but has been conducting interviews with respondents since January 2020
While partisan polarization remained high, the research also showed that there are divisions within the Democrats and the Republicans
By NIKKI SCHWAB, SENIOR U.S. POLITICAL REPORTER FOR DAILYMAIL.COM

PUBLISHED: 19:59 EST, 9 November 2021 | UPDATED: 09:36 EST, 10 November 2021

 

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U.S. voters are segmented into nine political tribes - four that lean left, four that lean right, and the 'stressed sideliners' who have a minimal interest in politics - according to a report released Tuesday by the Pew Research Center.

Pew surveyed 10,221 adults this July, but has been conducting interviews  with respondents since January 2020.

While partisan polarization remained high, the research also showed that there are divisions within both the Democrats and the Republicans - as members' views vary on issues including racial justice, abortion, taxes and the future role of former President Donald Trump.

Former President Donald Trump
President Joe Biden
Pew Research Center found that Americans make up nine different political tribes, according to a survey conducted in July, but with interviews starting back in January 2020

The Pew Research Center released a report Tuesday that put Americans into nine political groups - four that lean left, four that lean right, and the 'stressed sideliners,' who have a minimal interest in politics   +8
The Pew Research Center released a report Tuesday that put Americans into nine political groups - four that lean left, four that lean right, and the 'stressed sideliners,' who have a minimal interest in politics

This Pew chart shows the percentages the groups make up overall (left) and then among the political right (center) and political left (right)   +8
This Pew chart shows the percentages the groups make up overall (left) and then among the political right (center) and political left (right)

FLAG AND FAITH CONSERVATIVES


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This group is 'intensely conservative in all realms', according to Pew. They make up 23 per cent of Republicans and independents who lean Republican, making them one of the two largest GOP-leaning groups. They are majority white and Christian. They're more likely than other groups to argue that government policies should support religious values. They're also less likely to believe in compromise in politics. Most say that Trump is probably the winner of the 2020 election, believing the so-called 'big lie.' Pew found that 79 per cent of this group believes too much attention has been paid to the January 6 Capitol attack. 

COMMITTED CONSERVATIVES

This group holds views that are similar to the 'flag and faith conservatives' but with, as Pew put it, a 'softer edge.' They account for 15 per cent of Republicans and independents who lean GOP. They are pro-business and pro-small government. They would be more likely to support an immigration compromise than flag and faith conservatives and members of the populist right. They also believe the U.S. should prioritize relationships with foreign allies. While members of this group voted for Trump, they're not as enthusiastic about him - preferring former Republican presidents like Ronald Reagan. 

'Committed conservatives' are more likely  than other GOP groups to believe that the U.S. should look out for its foreign allies   +8
'Committed conservatives' are more likely  than other GOP groups to believe that the U.S. should look out for its foreign allies

The 'populist right' is more likely than other GOP groups to believe that the economic system in the U.S. is unfair   +8
The 'populist right' is more likely than other GOP groups to believe that the economic system in the U.S. is unfair

POPULIST RIGHT

This group tends to be less educated than other groups with members often living in rural communities. It also accounts for 23 per cent of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents. They are highly critical of U.S. immigration policy and also U.S. corporations. They are the only Republican group that argues the economic system in the U.S. unfairly supports powerful interests. They believe, which is something that Democratic President Joe Biden has proposed, that taxes should be raised on Americans making more than $400,000. Eighty-one per cent of this group told Pew pollsters they'd like to see Trump remain a prominent political figure.

AMBIVALENT RIGHT

This group is the youngest set of conservative-leaning voters. They hold traditional conservative opinions on issues such as favoring small government, the economic system, as well as race and gender. However, they're more likely to support the legalization of marijuana and support abortion rights and same-sex marriage. While a majority voted for Trump in the last election, 63 per cent say they don't want to see him continue to be a major political figure in the Republican Party.  A quarter of this group identifies as Democrats or Democratic leaners, while it makes up 18 per cent of Republicans and GOP-leaning independents.

Faith and flag conservatives as well as members of the populist right tend to be immigration hardliners, the Pew research showed   +8
Faith and flag conservatives as well as members of the populist right tend to be immigration hardliners, the Pew research showed

Those who are part of the 'ambivalent right' are more likely than other GOP groups to support abortion access and marijuana legalization   +8
Those who are part of the 'ambivalent right' are more likely than other GOP groups to support abortion access and marijuana legalization

PROGRESSIVE LEFT

The 'progressive left' is the only majority white group of Democrats. They make up 12 per cent of Democrats and independents who lean Democratic. They have very liberal views on nearly every issue. They differ from what Pew calls 'establishment liberals' because they support sweeping changes to address racial injustice. They want a big expansion of the social safety net. They're the most politically engaged of the Democratic groups. 

ESTABLISHMENT LIBERALS

'Establishment liberals,' on the other hand, are very liberal - but they're more resistant to sweeping change, instead supporting incrementalism and political compromise. A majority believe the party should be inclusive of those who believe GOP viewpoints on some issues. They account for 23 per cent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents, Pew found.

DEMOCRATIC MAINSTAYS

This is the oldest, on average, group of Democrats, who are loyalists to the party, and are more moderate on some issues. They're less likely than other Democratic groups to be college-educated. They account for 28 per cent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents. They may personally identify as politically moderate. Most of their views are liberal, however. On immigration, they may view illegal immigration as a bigger problem than other Democratic-leaning groups. They are also more pro-military. Forty per cent of black Democrats are included in this group. 

The views on the size and role of government tend to be divided along party lines   +8
The views on the size and role of government tend to be divided along party lines

There's a big split, as well, between the parties when it comes to discrimination against black people and white people   +8
There's a big split, as well, between the parties when it comes to discrimination against black people and white people

OUTSIDER LEFT

This is the youngest group of Democratic voters. They account for 16 per cent of Democrats and Democratic-leaning independents. They supported President Joe Biden in the last election, but are deeply frustrated with the political system, including the Democratic Party. They are liberal, especially on the issues of race, climate change and immigration. They often consider themselves to be political indepedents. They don't vote reliably, but will choose a Democrat over a Republican candidate.

STRESSED SIDELINERS

This group makes up 15 per cent of the American populace, but just 10 per cent of voters. Those included hold a mix of liberal and conservative views. They tend to be more liberal economically and conservative socially. They also tend to be economically stressed. What they have in common is a general disinterest in politics. Only 45 per cent of this group voted in the 2020 election, with about half choosing Biden.

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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2021, 06:18:57 AM »
I don't think America is at war with itself.

More like America is under attack by an international Cabal of elitists intent on remodeling the planet to eliminate most people and enslaving whoever is left; and literally to breed a new species of beings devoid of soul and spirit....to create the Beast System.
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We are most definitely at war within our country but  more like the world is at war with the New World Order (Elitists). Countries continue battle it within their individual borders, but this cancer knows no borders. This Covid thing (I believe) is one of many tools used to implement the order. A test to recognize and weed out the ones who pose the biggest obstacles to their plans. 
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Re: Is America at war with itself ?
« Reply #11 on: November 12, 2021, 02:52:09 PM »
Leftist successful meltdown Jihad/Coup to unseat our real president if all the prof we need of an internal fight for the very soul of America.
I want movement, not a calm course of existence. I want excitement and danger and the chance to sacrifice myself for my love. I feel in myself a superabundance of energy which finds no outlet in our quiet life.”

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