Innocents dying as Putin fires on civilian escape routes..

[ironglow]

  Happening now, as women & children try to leave.
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LMlVOBbuuig

       Intel sources say he plans on Moldova next, followed by Romania, and the other Balkan countries.

  ..Looks like he wants to be known as " THE BUTCHER OF THE BALKANS"

[mcbammer]

   Notice the mission creep has started , 500 more troops sent .

[Mule 11]

Yeah. Let’s defend someone else’s borders and people and leave ours wide open. Makes great sense. Don’t ya think? Of course for hurt feelings errr humanitarian reasons. Burrrpppp.

[ironglow]

  Apples and oranges..  We definitely should defend our own borders, but other borders are a seperate issue.

  No question we should defend our borders...Americans live near or on the borders...any president or administration should take seriously, their primary responsibility assigned them by the constitution...
  Which says.. "provide for the common defense"...

[Mule 11]

  Apples and oranges..  We definitely should defend our own borders, but other borders are a seperate issue.

  No question we should defend our borders...Americans live near or no the borders...and president or administration should take seriously, their primary responsibility assigned them by the constitution...
  Which says.. "provide for the common defense"...

More like apples and turds... seems like you are more interested in turds...

[Mule 11]

  Apples and oranges..  We definitely should defend our own borders, but other borders are a seperate issue.

  No question we should defend our borders...Americans live near or no the borders...and president or administration should take seriously, their primary responsibility assigned them by the constitution...
  Which says.. "provide for the common defense"...

Apparently we cannot depend on the puppet err whatever you want to call bumbles and these “representatives”? Will do nothing but degrade America and you know it. So. Since your statement is road apples and you know it. Now what?

[Mule 11]

  Apples and oranges..  We definitely should defend our own borders, but other borders are a seperate issue.

 

I must digress. It. Is. The only issue...

[ironglow]

  Apples and oranges..  We definitely should defend our own borders, but other borders are a seperate issue.

  No question we should defend our borders...Americans live near or no the borders...and president or administration should take seriously, their primary responsibility assigned them by the constitution...
  Which says.. "provide for the common defense"...

Apparently we cannot depend on the puppet err whatever you want to call bumbles and these “representatives”? Will do nothing but degrade America and you know it. So. Since your statement is road apples and you know it. Now what?

   Now what?  It would be far easier to answer you, if you would stick to the subject in question..

  How about giving it another try.

[Mule 11]

My responses were obvious. Maybe you should give reading them another try.

[Dee]

"Innocents dying as Putin fires on civilian escape routes"

Innocents die as drug Cartels fight over new American turf, as border crossing criminals rape, carjacking, rob, invade homes, crash into families running from police, steal kids for sex trafficking, smuggle death into the country in the form of fentanyl, cocaine, meth, and marijuana, in like Del rio, and Laredo TX, Arizona, New Mexico. California.

[orerancher]

"Innocents dying as Putin fires on civilian escape routes"

Innocents die as drug Cartels fight over new American turf, as border crossing criminals rape, carjacking, rob, invade homes, crash into families running from police, steal kids for sex trafficking, smuggle death into the country in the form of fentanyl, cocaine, meth, and marijuana, in like Del rio, and Laredo TX, Arizona, New Mexico. California.

^^^^Thank You democrats^^^^^

[Lloyd Smale]

you sure are a russian sympathizer only other one ive ever heard call the nazis is putin. Keep in mind that MOST of the people you consider soldiers are just citizens trying to defend whats theres and there familys. I think given the same circumstances everyone here but you would pick up arms and fight for whats theres. Dont you think its odd that russia is bombing citys and killing civilians but the Ukraine air fields are all operational. thats the way putin fights, always has been. Kill women and children to scare and intimidate his opponents into surrender. Granted its a war and civilians will be killed but putin intentionally bombs civilians and thinks of it as a more powerful tool then even attacking the military. .   

If the Nazi brigades are going to hide out among civilians, then some civilians are going to get hurt.
Certainly didn't bother us when we obliterated Fallujah, or Israelis in Gaza.

Putin has been saying for 15 years what he would do in Ukraine if the 3 neutrality agreements were not honored, if bio-labs were built, if fart comedian court jester president sought nukes, and if ethnic Russians were genocided. If Putin is as bad as MSM has been telling us for years, he would of Fallujahized the whole place. Anybody that doesn't realize that isn't just asleep, they're stupid. Biden and WEF Euro elites wanted this war, and now Americans suffer sanctions and pay. BIDEN NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY.
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WHO'S THE REAL ENEMY OF AMERICA?
Get your enemies straight >>≥

[O-mega]

you sure are a russian sympathizer only other one ive ever heard call the nazis is putin. Keep in mind that MOST of the people you consider soldiers are just citizens trying to defend whats theres and there familys. I think given the same circumstances everyone here but you would pick up arms and fight for whats theres. Dont you think its odd that russia is bombing citys and killing civilians but the Ukraine air fields are all operational. thats the way putin fights, always has been. Kill women and children to scare and intimidate his opponents into surrender. Granted its a war and civilians will be killed but putin intentionally bombs civilians and thinks of it as a more powerful tool then even attacking the military. .   

If the Nazi brigades are going to hide out among civilians, then some civilians are going to get hurt.
Certainly didn't bother us when we obliterated Fallujah, or Israelis in Gaza.

Putin has been saying for 15 years what he would do in Ukraine if the 3 neutrality agreements were not honored, if bio-labs were built, if fart comedian court jester president sought nukes, and if ethnic Russians were genocided. If Putin is as bad as MSM has been telling us for years, he would of Fallujahized the whole place. Anybody that doesn't realize that isn't just asleep, they're stupid. Biden and WEF Euro elites wanted this war, and now Americans suffer sanctions and pay. BIDEN NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY.
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WHO'S THE REAL ENEMY OF AMERICA?
Get your enemies straight >>≥

I am not a Russian sympathizer, but we, via NATO, are to blame for most of this.  He is defending his nation as we would have had the missiles not left Cuba.  As to civilians with weapons, if a civilian picks up a weapon to defend their country, which they should, then they become combatants and are legitimate targets.  It's a war, sometimes there is collateral damage, even we took out a few civilians now and then, but we lost many good men due to trying to prosecute a gentleman's war.  Even when we were engaged from schools and mosques, we were not allowed to level the place, even knowing full well that it was a strategy used by the enemy and most if not all civilians had left the area.  I have said it before, and I will say it again, if the MSM, Biden, Clinton, and Soros are on one side, I will look at the other side more favorably.

[Lloyd Smale]

there was no missles in the Ukraine. The only threat to russia uknarine was was putins fear his own people might see what a bit of free choice looked like. Now if nato moved nukes to the Ukraine or they started building there own i could see russia being angry but all this is is a land grab meant to make putin richer and more powerful. All you have to do is look at who backs him and who condems him to know if hes justified. 

you sure are a russian sympathizer only other one ive ever heard call the nazis is putin. Keep in mind that MOST of the people you consider soldiers are just citizens trying to defend whats theres and there familys. I think given the same circumstances everyone here but you would pick up arms and fight for whats theres. Dont you think its odd that russia is bombing citys and killing civilians but the Ukraine air fields are all operational. thats the way putin fights, always has been. Kill women and children to scare and intimidate his opponents into surrender. Granted its a war and civilians will be killed but putin intentionally bombs civilians and thinks of it as a more powerful tool then even attacking the military. .   

If the Nazi brigades are going to hide out among civilians, then some civilians are going to get hurt.
Certainly didn't bother us when we obliterated Fallujah, or Israelis in Gaza.

Putin has been saying for 15 years what he would do in Ukraine if the 3 neutrality agreements were not honored, if bio-labs were built, if fart comedian court jester president sought nukes, and if ethnic Russians were genocided. If Putin is as bad as MSM has been telling us for years, he would of Fallujahized the whole place. Anybody that doesn't realize that isn't just asleep, they're stupid. Biden and WEF Euro elites wanted this war, and now Americans suffer sanctions and pay. BIDEN NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY.
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WHO'S THE REAL ENEMY OF AMERICA?
Get your enemies straight >>≥

I am not a Russian sympathizer, but we, via NATO, are to blame for most of this.  He is defending his nation as we would have had the missiles not left Cuba.  As to civilians with weapons, if a civilian picks up a weapon to defend their country, which they should, then they become combatants and are legitimate targets.  It's a war, sometimes there is collateral damage, even we took out a few civilians now and then, but we lost many good men due to trying to prosecute a gentleman's war.  Even when we were engaged from schools and mosques, we were not allowed to level the place, even knowing full well that it was a strategy used by the enemy and most if not all civilians had left the area.  I have said it before, and I will say it again, if the MSM, Biden, Clinton, and Soros are on one side, I will look at the other side more favorably.

[O-mega]

there was no missles in the Ukraine. The only threat to russia uknarine was was putins fear his own people might see what a bit of free choice looked like. Now if nato moved nukes to the Ukraine or they started building there own i could see russia being angry but all this is is a land grab meant to make putin richer and more powerful. All you have to do is look at who backs him and who condems him to know if hes justified. 

you sure are a russian sympathizer only other one ive ever heard call the nazis is putin. Keep in mind that MOST of the people you consider soldiers are just citizens trying to defend whats theres and there familys. I think given the same circumstances everyone here but you would pick up arms and fight for whats theres. Dont you think its odd that russia is bombing citys and killing civilians but the Ukraine air fields are all operational. thats the way putin fights, always has been. Kill women and children to scare and intimidate his opponents into surrender. Granted its a war and civilians will be killed but putin intentionally bombs civilians and thinks of it as a more powerful tool then even attacking the military. .   

If the Nazi brigades are going to hide out among civilians, then some civilians are going to get hurt.
Certainly didn't bother us when we obliterated Fallujah, or Israelis in Gaza.

Putin has been saying for 15 years what he would do in Ukraine if the 3 neutrality agreements were not honored, if bio-labs were built, if fart comedian court jester president sought nukes, and if ethnic Russians were genocided. If Putin is as bad as MSM has been telling us for years, he would of Fallujahized the whole place. Anybody that doesn't realize that isn't just asleep, they're stupid. Biden and WEF Euro elites wanted this war, and now Americans suffer sanctions and pay. BIDEN NEEDS TO BE IMPEACHED IMMEDIATELY.
.
WHO'S THE REAL ENEMY OF AMERICA?
Get your enemies straight >>≥

I am not a Russian sympathizer, but we, via NATO, are to blame for most of this.  He is defending his nation as we would have had the missiles not left Cuba.  As to civilians with weapons, if a civilian picks up a weapon to defend their country, which they should, then they become combatants and are legitimate targets.  It's a war, sometimes there is collateral damage, even we took out a few civilians now and then, but we lost many good men due to trying to prosecute a gentleman's war.  Even when we were engaged from schools and mosques, we were not allowed to level the place, even knowing full well that it was a strategy used by the enemy and most if not all civilians had left the area.  I have said it before, and I will say it again, if the MSM, Biden, Clinton, and Soros are on one side, I will look at the other side more favorably.

Exactly, look who is condemning him the loudest, and see if you have ever been on the same side as those people.  No, no missiles were in Ukraine, they had given them all up, at least that is known.  But they did have Wuhan type labs, and NATO entry would have had them armed to the point of being a danger to Russia, as would a similarly armed Cuba would be to us, and they have an ocean to cross, Ukraine only has a river.

[Lloyd Smale]

we have labs, russia has labs, china has labs, korea has labs. Heck most of the world has labs just like that. Id bet canada has a couple and were not trying to go to war with them. This is a power grab by putin period end of story. If i knew for sure he wasnt going further it wouldnt bother me near as much but i fear this is just the start of the rise of communism. It even has started in our own country. Scary thing is the leader of that uprising here is making the decisions for us over there. I truely believe that if biden and the democrats could cut a deal with putin that would guarantee the end of the republican party they had the keys to the nukes to him. I also believe that a good part of our involvement was just staged to take the heat off of biden for the border cluster F, afganistan debacle and our economy which is not even slowly today becoming a socialist mess. When the government controls all forms of energy and can hold it over us  to either bow to them or freeze or starve that is plain and simple socialism. No different then what putin is doing in russia. But Trump knew that we cant let russia and china expand or get stronger. I personaly think he would have called russias bluff and ended this with a show of force before it even happened. What he absolutely wouldnt have done is make excuses for putin or tried to justify what he has done.

[O-mega]

we have labs, Russia has labs, china has labs, Korea has labs. Heck most of the world has labs just like that. Id bet Canada has a couple and were not trying to go to war with them. This is a power grab by Putin period end of story. If i knew for sure he wasn't going further it wouldn't bother me near as much but I fear this is just the start of the rise of communism. It even has started in our own country. Scary thing is the leader of that uprising here is making the decisions for us over there. I truly believe that if Biden and the democrats could cut a deal with Putin that would guarantee the end of the republican party they had the keys to the nukes to him. I also believe that a good part of our involvement was just staged to take the heat off of Biden for the border cluster F, Afghanistan debacle and our economy which is not even slowly today becoming a socialist mess. When the government controls all forms of energy and can hold it over us  to either bow to them or freeze or starve that is plain and simple socialism. No different then what Putin is doing in Russia. But Trump knew that we cant let Russia and china expand or get stronger. I personally think he would have called Russia's bluff and ended this with a show of force before it even happened. What he absolutely wouldn't have done is make excuses for Putin or tried to justify what he has done.

Yes, they , and we, probably do have those labs, and they are probably doing experiments that have been deemed illegal, but they are in their own country.  We export this to other countries, like the Wuhan lab, to do experiments not allowed in the US.  Lloyd, I invite you to look into why we orchestrated a civil war there in 2014, why the Biden's were paid so much money from there, and why we are so gun-ho to protect their borders while leaving ours wide open.  You have been hoodwinked but refuse to see it, you should always question your position if you land on the same side as the folks I mentioned above, they do not have our best interests in mind.

[billy_56081]

When you base your troops within the city, the city becomes a military target. Why are not the Ukrainian forces hitting the convoy that is just sitting there? Are they trying to get civilians killed to spark outrage?

[Dee]

Maybe they've hit all the fuel trucks, and the convoy can't move.

[ironglow]

  As Hitler prepared to invade England, he vowed he would r"wring England's neck..like a chicken".
  Shortly after the "Battle of Britain" ensued, when the RAF with its Hurricanes and Spitfires, fought off Hitler's Luftwaffe..cancelling his plans to invade England.

   Winston Churchill gave the Brits a speech over the radio, taunting Hitler when he concluded "Hmph!  ..Some chicken..some neck !"

   This seems to be Putin's dilemma now...  The Ukraine is no chicken, allowing it's neck to be wrung !

  Today on the news, I saw a video which caused me to wonder just who is leading the Russian troops.
  I was only an enlisted man when I served in tanks..but I knew better than to get a column of tanks trapped on a narrow street, bridge , dike or road..all in a line.

   ..But as I mentioned here already, some Russian commander did just that..got an armored column caught in a row in the street!  The Ukrainians using javelins..knocked out the lead and then the trail tank.
  Then it was easy to take out the rest at their leisure...

  I took no joy in that catastrophe..those were Russian sons, brothers, fathers and uncles in those armored vehicles!  ..And perhaps a few mothers, sisters and aunts also..

  "Sow the wind..reap the whirlwind."  (Hosea 8:7)