Uvalde Coverup

[nw_hunter]

More armchair QB responses.....https://www.grid.news/story/politics/2022/07/14/the-uvalde-shooting-video-a-30-year-law-enforcement-officer-provides-a-minute-by-minute-breakdown-of-what-happened/

[Lloyd Smale]

dont even bother dee. Your arguing with the defund the police trash. I can honestly say ive never been singled out by the police for anything i didnt deserve and in my younger days i had my share. My guess is the same goes for the cry babies here. They got just what they deserved. They broke the law, got caught and paid the price. Some just dont take well to being told there wrong. Its always someone elses fault. Or "someone's picking on me" GOD BLESS the men and women wear blue and camos. I will go to bed tonight safe because of both of them.   

I think it's just human nature to blame what you can see, rather than the "root cause" that you can't see. The news media immediately targeted the highly visab police, and totally ignored the "root cause", which was The Uvalde Independent School District.

Note: Not one school book member interviewed, and not one principal, or teacher at Robb Elementary interviewed by the news media.

People usually follow the "direction" the media leads them, and its always effective.

[Lloyd Smale]

no doubt dee to the fact all these investigations are run by liberals. Sad thing is we have chearleaders for them on here.

nope we all do it. I just make exceptions for people that are brave enough to risk getting killed for me and my family. Ask me about some shady politician or a football game and ill do some armchair quarterbacking. But those who have never had bullets fly over there head or have put there ass on the line for someone else have a special place in my heart and ill defend them to the end. At least until you can show me one cop who was told to go in there that refused.

Don't think I have ever met anyone in my almost 80 yrs that haven't done some so called armchair quarter backing. We all have opinions, and make those based on how we view or see things. LOL You could be an exception Lloyd. Perhaps your just an exceptional person.

Well Lloyd, the deed was done by very sick, demented individual on June 24th.

Note! Not one single poster is upset with the Uvalde Independent School District who didn't do one single thing to secure the school grounds and building.

Note! Not one single poster is upset with Robb Elementary school teachers, and staff, for failing to lock ANY DOORS, outside, or inside doors.

Note! Not one single poster is upset that had The Uvalde Independent School  District heeded STATE RECOMMENDED SECURITY SUGGESTIONS THIS AWFUL MASSACRE "LIKELY" WOULD HAVE NEVER HAPPENED.

Note! Not one single poster concerning this last scenario, "EVER" MENTIONS IT!

SO! as in Daniel, "the handwriting is on the wall". They don't really want to talk about the "REAL CAUSES". They want to point fingers.

But for every finger they point, there are three pointed back at the accusers themselves, whose thought process is so shallow, that the obvious INITIAL PROBLEMS,  ARE IGNORED, in favor of the more easily accused.

So Lloyd. After more than 2 months have passed, anything said, is a re-run of only the most obvious, while the ACTUAL CAUSES, remains ignored, and UNDISCUSSED!

Police officers are easier to accuse, and lambast, than faceless school board members, teachers, and staff, AND A TOTAL LACK OF SCHOOL SECURITY POLICY.

Nobody  wants to talk about that.  It's boring. 

[Dee]

dont even bother dee. Your arguing with the defund the police trash. I can honestly say ive never been singled out by the police for anything i didnt deserve and in my younger days i had my share. My guess is the same goes for the cry babies here. They got just what they deserved. They broke the law, got caught and paid the price. Some just dont take well to being told there wrong. Its always someone elses fault. Or "someone's picking on me" GOD BLESS the men and women wear blue and camos. I will go to bed tonight safe because of both of them.   

I think it's just human nature to blame what you can see, rather than the "root cause" that you can't see. The news media immediately targeted the highly visab police, and totally ignored the "root cause", which was The Uvalde Independent School District.

Note: Not one school book member interviewed, and not one principal, or teacher at Robb Elementary interviewed by the news media.

People usually follow the "direction" the media leads them, and its always effective.

I don't know about all that. I think we just see things quite a bit differently. We don't really have to agree.

[Lloyd Smale]

when you were in the service did you follow orders or do whatever your (censored word) wanted to?? If you disagreed with the commarnder of your base did you thumb your nose at him and go your own way. If you did im sure you spent some time in the brig. The real question is "did they disobey orders to breach that school?" If so there cowards plain an simple. I private doesnt make battle plans he follows them. Without that there is nothing but kayos. My point is they need to start with the man highest up on the chain of command that failed and work down. Not start with the lowest and work up while the commanders hide behind politics and shift blame to others. 

nope we all do it. I just make exceptions for people that are brave enough to risk getting killed for me and my family. Ask me about some shady politician or a football game and ill do some armchair quarterbacking. But those who have never had bullets fly over there head or have put there ass on the line for someone else have a special place in my heart and ill defend them to the end. At least until you can show me one cop who was told to go in there that refused.

Don't think I have ever met anyone in my almost 80 yrs that haven't done some so called armchair quarter backing. We all have opinions, and make those based on how we view or see things. LOL You could be an exception Lloyd. Perhaps your just an exceptional person.

Point being Lloyd....They were there, and did nothing. If they need to be told when to walk, when to talk, when to shoot or not to shoot, they need to be told to find a job more fitting their Ball size. If your child was in that slaughter house that day, would you be happy with their performance?

[Dee]

Agreed concerning chain of command.

[Lloyd Smale]

there is only kayos and dead heros without it. 

Agreed concerning chain of command.

[Dee]

nw_hunter what exactly is being covered up?

[Lloyd Smale]

maybe he can get some links from tm7 to some web sites that will show you

[nw_hunter]

nw_hunter what exactly is being covered up?

Not sure! I think that's being covered up.
 About the chain of command thing. Everyone in the military follows the chain of command., but when in battle and it comes down to pull trigger and shoot enemy, you don't wait on the Company Commander to say ....FIRE. You do the job you have been trained to do. I think most LEO'S do the same. Look! You two can continue to talk this media loving, arm chair QB crap all you want. There are many people who should have to answer why things went down the way it did that day. School officials, and Law enforcement. And btw Lloyd, I don't see any cop haters on here.
 I damn sure don't hate cops, but I think there were some damn cowards in that hallway that day, that need to find less dangerous employment. I'll give you two the final say. I'm through!

[Mule 11]

“When it comes down to battle and time to pull the trigger you don’t wait on the brass. You do what you came for... well said nw-hunter...

[Lloyd Smale]

thats what triggered the civil war!!! The war might have still happened but how many brave men died that day on both sides because of that idiot??? You absolutely dont shoot in battle before you are told to and who you are allowed to shoot. Now it might be an order given yesterday or even last week but privates dont go out and make decisions on who and when to shoot on there own. IF you believe that youve never been in battle. Alot of a battle involves timing and it isnt on you to decide that timing. What do you want. Every cop in the country to have an open invitation to shoot anyone they themselves deem needs to be shot. So you flinch when getting pulled over for speeding and its the cops discression whether he can consider you an armed dangerous fellon that needs to be shot. A private goes into a village and he decides which civilians need to be put down that day. Thats insanity not warfare. Why even have sergeants, lieutenants, squad leaders ect. Ask the navy seals about obeying orders and firing discipline.  The fact they practice those two things about every day is why they are so good at there job. They dont send 5 people in and let the new 3rd class decide when to start flinging lead. Same with a swat team. They train and train for discipline. they do not train there officers to be cowboys.

[DDZ]

I guess the idea is to place the blame on one cop who didn't order the hallway full of police to go stop the shooter.  That way they only have to discipline one cop. A hallway full of police waiting for an order to go in and stop someone from shooting kids and teachers in a classroom is absolutely ridiculous, and a big fat excuse for police that cowered in fear. I wonder if police have to wait for an order to shoot back at someone that is shooting at them?  I think not, and it should be the same reaction if someone is in a classroom shooting kids.   

[Dee]

Everybody's seen the videos. WHATs being covered up?