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Offline freddogs

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« on: March 14, 2004, 11:42:14 AM »
:D I'm back in school getting re educated. I keep hearing about global warming affecting everything (including Alaska). It doesn't seem that warm where I live in WI. Is it hindering your hunting? Are the caribou dropping over from the heat? Are you running out of glaciers?

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« Reply #1 on: March 17, 2004, 05:51:06 AM »
I know that Valdez usually get 500+ inches of snow a year.  For the past three years I have not seen that. About 6 years ago they got 800" one year. We had one week of -15 degree weather but that was it.  It is currently in the 20's.  I was fishing on Glacier Lake in the Tangle Lakes region on Monday in a long sleeve T-shirt. I have a great sunburn right now.

As for the glaciers.  Yes they are in full retreat. Columbia near here is way back. I have old postcard pictures of Valdez from the dock that shows Valdez very close to town.  It is all but gone now.

I hope it dies not get too warm though. I can't even stay in florida for a short time, way to hot for me.
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« Reply #2 on: March 17, 2004, 08:29:13 AM »
The climate IS changing, whatever the cause.  Permafrost is melting up in the interior.  Some of the fringe vegetation is dying off.  Here in SE we are seeing the Cedars going, and I have been told the warming is causing it.

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« Reply #3 on: March 17, 2004, 10:14:00 AM »
My igloo is melting! :)

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« Reply #4 on: March 17, 2004, 03:09:49 PM »
I TOLD you to install refrigeration coils when you built it, but do you listen to me?  Oh no, I'm just too old to know anything...

Hope you don't wash away into the Tanana!

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« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2004, 04:54:45 AM »
Quote from: Winter Hawk
I TOLD you to install refrigeration coils when you built it, but do you listen to me?


That's what Bernie Karl has done with the Ice Hotel he's constructed at Chena Hot Springs.  And he actually has people paying him good money to overnight in it!  Kinda like sleeping in a walk-in freezer.

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« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2004, 09:34:15 AM »
A couple of things to consider, especially about the glaciers retreating.

All glaciers in Alaska aren't retreating.  Some are advancing.  In the same icefield some are retreating while others advance (College Fjord is an example).  The galloping Hubbard Glacier (near Yakutat) advanced so much two years ago that it sealed off Disenchantment Bay and created Russell Lake.  The dam has broke now, but the ice is still very close to making landfall again.

Another thought is that glaciers have been retreating since the last ice age, if they hadn't, there would be no Valdez, and the majority of the Sound would still be ice-locked.  The Bagley Icefield, the largest subpolar icefield in the hemisphere, seems to be thickening, from the last reports published.  This will cause some glaciers to advance.  The areas of Vitus and Berg Lakes at the terminus of the Bering glacier vary substantially from one year to the next, some years the different lobes of the glacier advance and some years they retreat.  In 86 the Steller lobe advanced suddenly and sealed Berg Lakes until pressure undercut the glacier and flooded the entire Bering River valley.

While we may be warming, I'm not convinced its as much doom and gloom as has been reported the last several years.  Some of this warming trend is cyclical.  This warming trend started some 10,000 years ago.  The hasty retreat of the Columbia will probably cease or at least slow greatly when the glacier retreats to land.  The Columbia experienced this exact phenomena when it "beached" against Heather Island and the subtidal zone along that formation.  After it receeded over that high point, with nothing to support it, it retreated more hastily again.  The effects of the warmer ocean currents of El Nino also played a large role.

The Malaspina Glacier near Yakutat is an ideal study for the effects of the "warming" environment.  Since it is the largest Piedmont style glacier in North America and is land based, there are no other factors causing recession or advancement, other than air temp and snowfall.  In other words, El Nino or ocean storms don't have the single year dramatic effects on it the way they would on a tidewater glacier.

For the past 3 or 4 years we've had "mild" winters compared to what we have seen in the past.  However, if you look at the record cold temps and record highs, most of the record cold temps are fairly recent.  Record high's are usually date from the 40's and 50's.  It does seem that every year we do see a high temp or low temp record being broken though.

A good record and plot of current temps and historical temps can be found at http://pafc.arh.noaa.gov/

As far as the global warming effecting hunting, I haven't seen any real noticeable effects.

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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2004, 05:14:21 AM »
Hey,Y'all!!!  :D  I live in Wisconsin like Freddogs, (moved last fall from South Carolina)  :(  and YES!!! global warming or should I say the lack of it has affected my hunting---too d#$%# cold to hunt here--at least to sit in a frozen deer stand---- :cry:  I like to still hunt but it's like Viet Nahm out there with only a 9 day gun season  :shock: ---so a stand is safer. Guess I'd better just hunt squirrels! 8)  I hope Al Gore will be right about global warming---that's the only thing I would hope he would be right about, but the dumb s#$t  is  probably wrong about that---like everything else!!  :P    pg
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