NASA: New Experimental Tech Could Charge Electric Cars in 5 Minutes

[Graybeard]

https://www.newsmax.com/newsfront/nasa-space-electriccars/2022/10/12/id/1091637/

By Luca Cacciatore    |   Wednesday, 12 October 2022 09:18 PM EDT

NASA revealed earlier this month that a cooling system could potentially charge electric cars in under five minutes.

A team from Purdue University sponsored by NASA developed the new technology that will "achieve orders-of-magnitude improvement in heat transfer" for spaceships and earthbound vehicles, leading to "significant reductions in size and weight of the hardware."

NASA scientists are also optimistic that the "subcooled flow boiling" tech can also be used to drastically reduce the charging time for electric vehicles to around five minutes, increasing the current 520-ampere limit to upward of 2,400 amperes.

"Application of this new technology resulted in [an] unprecedented reduction of the time required to charge a vehicle and may remove one of the key barriers to worldwide adoption of electric vehicles," the blog post read.

Right now, "most chargers available to consumers support currents of less than 150 amperes," it continued. "Charging systems providing 1,400 amperes will generate significantly more heat than current systems, however, and will require improved methods to control temperature."

The news comes as President Joe Biden and his administration have pushed for favoring electric vehicles over gas-powered ones in their energy policy amid soaring gas prices and inflation.

"I'm pleased to announce that we're approving funding for the first 35 states, including Michigan, to build their own charging infrastructure throughout their state," Biden told a crowd at the Detroit Auto Show last month.

"The great American road trip is going to be fully electrified. Whether you're driving coast to coast along I-10 or on I-75 here in Michigan, charging stations will be up and easy to find as easy as they are now," he added.

[ironglow]

  THAT...would be a "game changer".. now if Elon musk can produce a superior battery, without using lithium ..

[billy_56081]

It ain't the voltage that kills you it is the amperage!

[Ranger99]

Even if there's a breakthrough in
charging technology, the biggest
hurdle I see is the need to be able
to ( for example) put your luggage,
clothing, fishing/hunting gear, your
camping necessities, food, etc. in
your electric vehicle, drive a few
hours away where there is no
recharging capabilities, and never
will be,  do your thing for several
days, then have the juice to drive
however many hours back home
in whatever kind of weather and
safely make it back without having
to call Triple A or whoever because
you have no electricity in your
electric car

For in town driving and commuting,
yeah I can see all electric working
for some people that drive maybe
30 miles total

[Ranger99]

What do the northern people do
that have to drive through salt
spray and salty slush for several
months every year  ?
All the main electrical goods
are underneath the electric
cars and exposed to the corrosive
salt

[Dixie-Dude]

Tesla seals their cars so well, they float.  Someone posted on You Tube a Tesla floating in a flooded street in Florida after the hurricane.  Don't know about other brands.  Right now Tesla has charging stations in almost all cities and along the interstate system for people to be able to drive cross country.  Other cars can't charge there though, their charging systems are different.  Now they will have to have charging stations, like gas stations in small towns and rural areas eventually.  Tesla's fast 45 minute charge uses 440 volt system, called their supercharger.  They say it takes 3 hours to charge a Tesla with 220, and 8 hours with 120 volts. 

The batteries use lithium and cobalt.  Cobalt being the harder to get.  So, Tesla is now making lithium-iron batteries since iron is everywhere.  It cuts the range some, and the cars are heavier. 

Still, every new technology takes about 30 years to become widespread.  Any fast charging will take a while to get into place.  It ain't happening overnight, by 2030 or 2035 like some want it to be.  It will be more like 2050 or later.  Fossil fueled cars, trucks, planes, ships, and locomotives are going to be around for 20-50 years or longer.  Cars can last 20 years or longer, diesel trucks the same or longer.  locomotives last 50 or more years.  Ships 50 or more years.  Planes 50 years.  747's are still flying and they were first built in the late 1960's.  B-52's are still flying and they are about 70 years old. 

[Lloyd Smale]

well ive got no doubt that someday the gas motor will be in the history books and replaced by electricity of some other fuel. If the left wants REAL green it cant be electricity unless a cheap efficient way to produce it is invented. Now this technology is just smoke and mirrors created by the left. It is like the rest of there electric push all done on promises of what might be not WHAT IS. IF IT IS EVER used in our cars what will it cost? How much will those cars cost? When the oil companies are bust and the electric companies (which by the way are regulated by the fed government) take over control of the fuel to drive this country what will happen to prices. No longer will they have to compete with the fossil fuel industry. What will the left do, that knows electricity pollutes, when they have federal control over the price? My guess is they make it so expensive that we will be riding bicycles to work and it will force more and more to live in those liberal citys and give them more voting power. Doesnt this all sound familiar?? Its called socialism. Everything including electric cars is part of there agenda to make us ruled by government not represented by government. Take away our guns? thats one of the first steps, take away our mobility and ability to work? right up there too. Completely obliterate the middle class and have only the rich and there slaves. be careful cheering the technology that will be used to take away our freedom. Are people really so dumb to not realize when billions are spent on charging stations its just like the student loan bs. We as the middle class are paying for this with our taxes so that the rich who can afford teslas or afford to have a 2nd or 3rd car thats electric to run to the grocery store so we can pretend to be green. So we pay for part of there car purchase, pay for building them charging stations , pay for the road tax when we buy our gas that fixes the roads, Pay for the car companys to waste there time building cars before the technology is there to make them makes sense and the electrical grid thats falling down already completely crashes. If somewhere in this rant you can still justify this bs there forcing on us then your either blind, stupid or both. Might as well toss your guns in the truck when you trade it in on your electric. Might as well get your bar code tattooed on your wrist.

[Dee]

I like cordless drills, and impact wrenches. I like cordless weed eaters. Until the batteries go south. I doubt these cordless cars will be any different.

[ironglow]

  The left is demanding electric cars for THEIR RELIGIOUS reasons. If they would just leave things alone, the problems would work their way out, since that is the way free societies and capitalism work.

  When the world starts to run out of petroleum, and a gallon of gas approaches half a day's pay, a new development will answer the need.  Whether that answer is electric, a fuel cell, captive hydrogen, or some as of yet undiscovered method, the transfer will indeed take place.

   Let's look at history..  When Karl Benz invented the first automobile in1886, most thought it an interesting "toy"..
   They couldn't see how it would ever replace the horse. 

   Benz's car ran on "light petrol"..very little of that was being produced at that time. The first oil well was completed
  in Trinidad in 1857..and the Titusville, PA well completed in 1859, so petroleum was at that point, not a practical, 
   nor economical fuel.

  Can you imagine what oil and fuel would cost for daily use?  ..Plus, the 4 cycle engine was not yet practical, so there
   was no widespread use of a gasoline powered automobile, until well into the 20th century.  The automobile
  remained a "rich man's toy".

   However, as the engines improved and oil became more abundant etc... then they started to assume their role.

    Whenever tyrants try to force THEIR ideas upon a people accustomed to freedom, there are BOUND to be
   repercussions.

     If left alone, when the need arises, it will be answered.. Remember,.-... "necessity is the mother of invention".

[gene_225]

We forget that we are rich by the world's standards. We are certainly not middle class by those standards. A car or two, central heat and air, running water, "educated" kids, public transportation, etc. etc. etc. We are spoiled by having the government subsidies provide cheap fuel which allows us to jump in the car when we want a Coke or a pack of cigarettes etc. Poor people have always had to walk. If you aren't having to walk, you aren't poor or even middle class. As always, jmho trying to keep things in perspective.