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Re: ..Still doubt that Obama runs the White house ?
« Reply #60 on: December 11, 2023, 07:12:00 AM »
But while it's true that one of three epigraphs on an introductory page (not a dedication page) of Rules for Radicals characterizes Lucifer as the "first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment," the book is neither dedicated to Lucifer, nor need it be read as an endorsement of devil worship or Satanism.

The name "Lucifer" appears nowhere else in the book, nor does the name "Satan." The word "devil" is used several times, but only in the generic sense of "enemy." By contrast, there are many references to Christianity — particularly early Christianity, the adherents of which Alinsky characterizes as "revolutionary" and compares to the young radicals of his own time (the book was first published in 1971). And, though Alinsky's book is a paean to neither Satanism nor Christianity, he does claim his principles rest on Judeo-Christian values.

The point is this: Whatever else it may be and however one may feel about his ideas, Rules for Radicals is not a brief for Satan. Alinsky's opening acknowledgment of Lucifer is a literary allusion to one of the oldest stories of rebellion against authority in Western civilization. On careful reading, there's no evidence he intended it to be understood in any deeper or darker sense.

Have you read the book?

Didn't think so.

Maybe you should actually read the book. :)

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Re: ..Still doubt that Obama runs the White house ?
« Reply #61 on: December 11, 2023, 07:19:40 AM »
Alinsky did not dedicate a book to Satan.

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/saul-alinsky-dedicated-rules-for-radicals-to-lucifer/

   Alinsky's words;

    " Lest we forget at least an over-the-shoulder acknowledgment to the very first radical: from all our legends, mythology, and history (and who is to know where mythology leaves off and history begins — or which is which), the first radical known to man who rebelled against the establishment and did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer. — SAUL ALINSKY   

     Whether one considers it a dedication, endorsement or personal affinity...Alinsky for sure, offered a favorable assessment of old Satan himself !
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No, he did not. An OBSERVATION, or an OPINION, is not AN ENDORSEMENT, of FAVORABLE ASSESSMENT. To say it is, is A LACK OF READING COMPREHENSION on your part.
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Re: ..Still doubt that Obama runs the White house ?
« Reply #62 on: December 11, 2023, 08:57:54 AM »
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     Perhaps our comprehensions differ..  Perhaps they should be more all-encompassing..

    Alinsky's book was all about his rebellious followers desiring POWER. a Marxist empirte or "kingdom".. In that endorsement, Alinsky gives credit to
   the dark rebel who...  " did it so effectively that he at least won his own kingdom — Lucifer. —"  ...SAUL ALINSKY  

     You can parse words for Trumpy all you wish, ...But it sure sounds like an endorsement to me...and many other observers.
If you don't want the truth, don't ask me.  If you want something sugar coated...go eat a donut !  (anon)
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