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« on: April 02, 2004, 08:41:28 AM »
Hey All,  

I am looking for some ideas on target stands.  We have new SB cast iron targets ordered, but we need stands.  

If anybody has any good input on what is preferred and what we should stay away from, I would appreciate it.

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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2004, 09:39:12 AM »
It would be a lot easier if you could keep morons with SKS' and steel cored ammo from amusing themselves on your smallbore range. Best is hardened steel such as grader-blade tips or railroad rails.

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2004, 11:56:48 AM »
We prefer to have movable frames, that allow us to take them off the range when we are done.

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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2004, 01:05:30 PM »
chunter
I use to use 3" I-Beam cut at 1" wide,Then weld them to a piece of 3" Flat stock spaced at the proper distance,Then lag screw then down to a 4X4
for pigs,turkeys,and rams used old rail road ties for the chicken you will have to put a lag down between each animal to keep the others from bouncing off,also had to weld a proper size pad on for the rams.
The I-Beam gets you 3" above the wood,And if you ticked a animal it would usually fall off.
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2004, 01:17:13 PM »
Chunter,

If you want to build resettables -- they make the match run much faster and they' re safer since you don't need anyone downrange except to paint (which we've found necessary only at match midpoint) -- contact me offlist at e27122002@yahoo.com and I'll put in touch with Charlie McClure.
Charlie built ours and they work very well. He has pics and material info that he'll happily send you for the asking.

If you're going to go with non-resets, you want 'sledge' type stands with angled backing plates. The backing serves three functions: 1. It gives the shooter/spotter an impact mark on misses. 2. It prevents the targets -- especially chickens -- from getting too far away. (When that happens it slows the match.) 3. It makes things safer since it contains the shots.
If you make the sledge runners correctly, you can tow them into position with almost anything with a hitch on it.
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2004, 01:29:25 PM »
Forgot to mention:

If you go with sledges, you need to make them out of heavy stock in order to avoid impact falls.

I was typing while Kahuna was posting but, if you want to keep cost down or you can't get a vehicle onto the range to tow heavy sledges, his system is probably better than what we had before the resettables. If you use his system, you can always put drop-down plates out behind the spot where you'll set the lighter, smaller stands, prop them up for backing at match time and drop them flat afterward.
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2004, 03:09:14 PM »
Chunter,
Here are some pictures of the resettables.  Easy to carry with 2 people, or 1 with a wheelbarrow.  We do have 1/4" plate backstops free standing  behind the targets for bullet deflection into the ground, and easier spotting.  Notice the front "splash plate" to dampen the vibration from the target and deflect the bullet downward from the front also.
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http://webpages.charter.net/n2837t/target.html
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2004, 04:19:04 PM »
Wellllllllllllll, I guess that I don't have to put you in touch with McClure -- he was lurking around some dark corner again!

Just wish that they'd used someone prettier in that upper-left pic of the two guys carrying the stand...ME for instance!  :D
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« Reply #8 on: April 05, 2004, 12:17:24 PM »
A couple questions.  

On these self resetting targets. If you do not get a solid hit on the animal will it fall over.  I know with free targets they can turn and fall of the base. That seems to be eliminated with this type of target system.

We are looking for a stands to get us started, and need a cheap and viable solution.  It looks like these resetable targets may be over our budget. I personally have never shot a resetable silhouette target before,  how do shooters like them as compared to free standing targets?

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« Reply #9 on: April 05, 2004, 01:21:28 PM »
chunter,

Some resettable targets are a problem.  I think you are better off without them in many instances.

The only ones I have seen that were any good at all were prohibitively expensive.

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« Reply #10 on: April 05, 2004, 04:19:06 PM »
The stands pictured function at least as well as free standing targets -- which have their own problems -- and are actually a little easier to spot on since the targets always fall straight back. If balanced and leveled properly, they work almost flawlessly; although we get an occasional bounce-back-up on chickens. Almost everyone who's shot on ours has been positive.
As for cost, IIRC we paid $150 per bank of five. (This was materials only -- you'll have to find someone who can weld and is willing to volunteer his time.)
We feel that that cost was certainly not prohibitive and the safety factor of not having people down range resetting is more than worth the money we spent...

Mongo, whose resets were you shooting on that didn't work well? (I'm told that the ones used in France at the last world matches were less than good.)

Chunter, if you're really cash-short, railroad iron rails work well and are almost indestructible. All you have to do is weld pads on top. (Since you have to move them, I'd think that a little engineering would produce wheeled rails that could be easily moved and the cost would be pretty low. Lay-down backers would complete the setup.)
There're a gabillion ways to make rails and anything solid and level will work. If you want, email me and I'll get you some pics this weekend of the other systems we use -- or still have in place from previously -- at our range. The problem you'll face is that anything light enough to be truly portable will likely be subject to impact/vibration falls.
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« Reply #11 on: April 06, 2004, 03:02:27 PM »
I have shot rimfire silhouette targets off of 2x4's wired onto steel posts; 4x4's on the ground or blocks; rail road ties; individual stands made of 1/4 or 3/8 rod stuck in the ground with a flat top welded on, the size of the animals foot; grader blades; snow plow blades;  1/2 flat iron.  The 2x4 did not have enough mass and would shake when hit knocknig the rest of the animals off.  
Currently shooting resetables similar to Charlies but not as long of a hinge.  We do get some bounce back now and then.  Edge hits go down, targets do not spin indicating left or right hits.  Shooters like them because they don't have to walk down to reset and more time to gab.