Author Topic: Most accurate lever-action rimfire for cowboy silhouette? (Read 7992 times)

AMB · « **Reply #30 on:** May 21, 2004, 02:23:47 PM »

Congratulations, and good luck on your State Shoot. We've run .22, P.C. and Long Range the last two years and have had fun. Basically, we made sure the rules were followed as written without being anal about it. Ultimately, you make some judgement calls. The bottom line is it's your range and if somebody brings something totally in right field, then they won't be eligble for awards. However, I doubt you'll have a problem. Probably, the worse case scenario is as stated in previous posts, someone grinding down a base, and I wouldn't give someone the boot for that. However, if some other modifications are made such as rebarelling, changing calibers, wild sight setups, then that's a no no.

Sixgun · « **Reply #31 on:** May 24, 2004, 04:09:24 AM »

It seems like I am getting to be the one discussed.

Last week when this discussion started getting nasty about grinding sights and drilling holes. I started looking for a Williams sight for my 92 Rossi.

I can defend both sides of this issue. The modified Redfield does make a better sight for a saddle gun which is the other purpose of my 92 Rossi. I spend lots of time in the saddle in wild country and the little Rossi is really nice to have under my leg. I also carry a 44 mag on my hip but you all know that the only good use of a handgun is to fight your way to your rifle. The modifications that I have made to this sight do not enhance my ability to shoot better any more than a Redfield sight that would be made for a flat side receiver.

This brings up another topic on this discussion. I know this is nit picking, but some like to nit pick. Redfield, Lyman, and Williams do not list a receiver sight for a Rossi 92. Any one of the sights available are not manufactured specifically for this rifle. Marble does make a Tang sight for it but they are expensive and my hand is too small to use this sight. Also remember that the same modifications have to be made to new Marlins and Winchesters to get a receiver sight mounted. ie. drill and tap 2 holes in the receiver. Funny thing, you have to do the very same thing to get the very same sights to fit the Rossi 92.

I am not a contender in any matches with my Rossi. I am almost a AAA shooter. I have one or two more AAA scores to go. I am a solid AA shooter with this rifle. Just in case you have forgot, I got my GS with my Marlin 39a using a Williams receiver sight.

I don't like to be the topic of negative discussion in any of the posts here or worse yet, on a Cowboy Silhouette range. I, like some of you who have posted would be the last to boot someone from a match because they are an ounce overweight or they read the rules different than me and have ground a round receiver sight to fit a flat receiver. I could be wrong but I feel that the spirit of the law is usually more important than the letter of the law. This is COWBOY Silhouette. I started cowboying at the tender age of 13 and that was 150 miles from town and many a day and night alone making my own decisions. One thing a cowboy has to do is be innovative. When you are out on a horse, 75 miles from any kind of help, you have to make what you have got with you work. You get in the habit of fixing things and making them work without making a trip to town. I have lived in town for a few years now but I still have that "Cowboy Mentality". I still find myself on a horse, 75 miles from town 20 or 30 times a year so it is a good mentality to keep around. Hell, Elmer Keith was my neighbor and I have been there a few times myself.

Anyway, if I ever get a Grand Slam with this rifle, or win an important match, I don't want anyone to come up and take it away from me cause I am too much of a Cowboy. I believe in rules too and I know that when you bend them, it leaves the barn door open for some of those "Play Cowboys" to sneak in and do something really wrong and when you call them on it they say, "Well, you let Sixgun get away with re-manufacturing his Redfield sight so I figured I could mount a laser guided missile on my rifle."

I'll get a Williams sight soon.

Sixgun

nomad · « **Reply #32 on:** May 24, 2004, 05:29:15 AM »

Sixgun,

Actually, you're right and I've been thinking that I owe you an apology for jumping on you when all you were doing was trying to help.

The problem -- as you noted -- is that advice given on the 'net is read by people far removed from the one who originally requested it. If someone shows up at a match that is run by the book, that advice, even if completely practical and reasonable, may get him DQ'd if it's contrary to the rule book.

FWIW, in a match other than local -- IOW any state, regional or national match -- I WOULD bust (and have) any rifle that was even part of an ounce over, had a trigger that was under, had a scope that was .1" higher than allowed or, if hunter, a non-functional safety (etc. etc.). Gray areas I let slide (that's why there's a protest system and a jury) but there are things that are specific in the rules and, when running tech, I enforce them. My rifles make tech and so IMO should anyone else's. (I know that those minor differences don't mean a thing in the overall scheme of things but it just shows respect for the other competitors to make the same effort to follow the rules that they do.)

Anyway, please accept my apology. Maybe we'll run across each other at a match and I can buy you a soft drink -- or something. :wink:

Sixgun · « **Reply #33 on:** May 24, 2004, 10:16:22 AM »

nomad,

appology accepted.

Yes, I have been on those jurys and some make it and some don't. Sometimes it is because of their attitued or they are just too stupid to be out on their own. Most of those, my soft heart reaches out.

Then there is those who are always trying to get away with anything they can and don't give a darn about anyone else. My heart is not so soft with those types.

Anyway, maybe somewhere between Idaho and Texas we will get into a match and I do like soft drinks.

Sixgun