Author Topic: A & H Groups (Read 610 times)

RandyWakeman · « **on:** May 30, 2004, 01:25:38 AM »

If anybody wants to save some time with an A & H, .45 / 300 or 340 Dead Centers and 348 and 405 gr. Powerbelts are generally "bullets" worth trying-- in the last seven A & H 320 and 420's I've shot. There isn't enough space to list all the bullets that don't group like this. :oops:

grouse · « **Reply #1 on:** May 31, 2004, 02:59:23 AM »

Well Randy. Mighty fine shooting you did here. I don't think the
Bears in Canada will appreciate the load you got for the A&H.

RandyWakeman · « **Reply #2 on:** May 31, 2004, 07:09:26 AM »

Actually, I believe they will. :roll:

sabotloader · « **Reply #3 on:** June 01, 2004, 06:11:14 AM »

Randy, I have really been impressed with the Nosler 300gr. .458 Protected Point. I shoot it with the MMP orange sabot and a 100 grains of loose t7. My A&H's really like this combination and the things really shoots well on paper. And the bullets that I recover from the bank (100+ yards) behind are performing or appear to be performing. They certainly look like they will do the job, I really like that jagged copper cutting and damaging tissue as it passes by. you know "if the shoc and aw don't get'em the cutting will."

Are you using the A&H in Cananda or the Savage? I guess I just fgured you would be using the Savage...

RandyWakeman · « **Reply #4 on:** June 01, 2004, 06:29:09 AM »

Quote from: sabotloader

Randy, I have really been impressed with the Nosler 300gr. .458 Protected Point. I shoot it with the MMP orange sabot and a 100 grains of loose t7. My A&H's really like this combination and the things really shoots well on paper.

I never argue with results! The fact of the matter is that after any .45 bullet penetrates completely through the vitals of a game animal-- there just isn't much to show it will live very long.

grouse · « **Reply #5 on:** June 01, 2004, 07:19:14 PM »

Are you using the A&H in Cananda or the Savage? I guess I just fgured you would be using the Savage...

Sabotloader,
Randy went on a Boar hunt with 4 or 5 guys that were all taking a White rifle. I think they were expecting him to also. He showed up with a Knight Rifle. Trying to figure what he is going to do, Forget it.

sabotloader · « **Reply #6 on:** June 02, 2004, 05:35:20 AM »

Grouse, I forgot about his passion for Knights - 'sides I didn't really think he would commit to anything anyway - really not good for business. Sometimes, I do think it would be fun to be on the inside.

sabotloader · « **Reply #7 on:** June 02, 2004, 05:43:15 AM »

Randy, what weight dead center? I ask that because, I am thinking my velocities with a 300 grain XTP is another 100-150fps faster... I think I am using the same chrono you are - maybe elevation I am shooting at 2700 feet elevation. I am at work so I can not really check the velocities I have recorded.

Have you tried the MMP sub-base with a 100 grains t7 yet? I have some but have not tried them yet to see if they make a velocity difference. The sabots that I recover really do not look terribly stressed at the base, with 100 grains of t7.

grouse · « **Reply #8 on:** June 02, 2004, 05:51:50 AM »

Sabotloader,
He was using a 340grn DeadCenter on the target above.
Just look a little closer. :-D :lol:

RandyWakeman · « **Reply #9 on:** June 02, 2004, 06:00:35 AM »

Quote from: sabotloader

Have you tried the MMP sub-base with a 100 grains t7 yet? I have some but have not tried them yet to see if they make a velocity difference.

Yes, they are the 340 grain Dead Centers. Sub-bases are a waste with 100 grains of T7-- they naturally reduce velocity as they add weight. Same bullet goes 2040 fps or so out of my Savages-- still, no sub-base.

sabotloader · « **Reply #10 on:** June 02, 2004, 07:40:51 AM »

Thanks Randy, sorry Grouse I didn't see the green writing. Kinda reminds me of my 8th grade history students when I tell them to read the directions on the test carefully.....

grouse · « **Reply #11 on:** June 02, 2004, 06:58:45 PM »

Quote from: sabotloader

Thanks Randy, sorry Grouse I didn't see the green writing. Kinda reminds me of my 8th grade history students when I tell them to read the directions on the test carefully.....

:grin: