Author Topic: For all who think the 10" 44 Mag kicks to hard.. (Read 851 times)

Bullseye · « **on:** May 28, 2004, 06:18:58 PM »

Do what I did today to convince yourself that it does not kick that bad. Shoot 20 rounds with a 375 Win. Then 20 rounds with an unbraked and unscoped 45-70. Then shoot the 44 Mag. You will then realize that it does not kick that bad. :grin:

If the above test does not convince you, start with something like a 375 JDJ. Seriously, it was interesting to feel the difference in recoil between the calibers. I have shot them all many times, but not one right after another like I did today.

Graycg · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2004, 04:15:26 AM »

You've got a good point there bud! I have a 10 inch bull VVCG 44 barrel and while it kicks more than my smith and wesson 629 classic, it really isn't all that bad. I sometimes wonder if that 10 inch recoil thing came out of the old octagon barrels or if it really is just a comparison to the typical recoil of a revolver?
Anyway, I shoot max loads of H110 on top of 305 LBT WFNGCs and they come out of that 10 inch at 1625 FPS and the recoil is still much less than my 14 inch 45-70 or 444 marlin barrels or my 12 inch 358 JDJ barrel.

regards,
Graycg

TC Shooter · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2004, 05:56:04 PM »

I sometimes wonder if that 10 inch recoil thing came out of the old octagon barrels or if it really is just a comparison to the typical recoil of a revolver?

No , in my case the 44 10" bull barrel simply hurt - period! Not discomforting , not irritating but painful. Perhaps a different grip design would have made a difference. Shot the Encore in .308 and found it to be quite tolerable. Everyone has different hands - some are meaty with a lot of padding - some are small and frail - everyone will have a different sensation to recoil. Apparently there are enough shooters here who find the 44 10" in a TC to possess more felt recoil than they care for.

Also have no doubts about the 45-70 or the various big bore JDJs being worse. Also have no desire to ever own or even shoot one for that matter.

The 44 mag is all the power I will ever want or need in a handgun and I can shoot it comfortably in my revolver for extended periods.

Thomas Krupinski · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2004, 06:36:28 PM »

I have a set of the T/C new rubber grips on one of my Encore frames and it is nice. I wonder if they will be producing a model for the older Contender frames as I would like to replace the Rynite I have with one of those new rubber ones. I am shooting a 310 grain cast out of the 44 Mag in the Contender and 125 grain in 30/06 in the Encore and the Encore with the rubber seems easier on the hand, but does more move during recoil.

K2 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2004, 04:36:19 AM »

This is a logical response TC shooter

If it hurts don't shoot it! Pain is your bodies way of telling you this is not a good idea. I have shot some pretty mean calibers and outside of hunting big game see no need to do it on a regular basis. All should shoot game with the most effective round that they personally can handle to put in the right place every time. For target shooting if someone wants to beat themselves up I guess that is their option, but that is not my cup of tea.

While my recoil tolerance is a bit more than yours there is no bragging rights in it.

Quote from: TC Shooter

I sometimes wonder if that 10 inch recoil thing came out of the old octagon barrels or if it really is just a comparison to the typical recoil of a revolver?

No , in my case the 44 10" bull barrel simply hurt - period! Not discomforting , not irritating but painful. Perhaps a different grip design would have made a difference. Shot the Encore in .308 and found it to be quite tolerable. Everyone has different hands - some are meaty with a lot of padding - some are small and frail - everyone will have a different sensation to recoil. Apparently there are enough shooters here who find the 44 10" in a TC to possess more felt recoil than they care for.

Also have no doubts about the 45-70 or the various big bore JDJs being worse. Also have no desire to ever own or even shoot one for that matter.

The 44 mag is all the power I will ever want or need in a handgun and I can shoot it comfortably in my revolver for extended periods.

Graycg · « **Reply #5 on:** May 30, 2004, 04:47:13 AM »

I use Pachy Gripper grips, makes all the difference in the world on recoil pain. I really don't like the Rynite grips with the rubber backing, my fleshy hands tend to get rubbed hard where the rubber and the rynite meet.
If I had first bought a 10 inch 44 with factory stocks and no scope, that would have likely been the end of my contender days right away, but I have continually worked my way up. As for comparision of Encore Vs Contender, well since the typical Encore weighs about 2 or more pounds than the typical contender, well that makes as much difference as the types of grips you have on it!!!

Love to hear about everyone's experience.

regards,
graycg

Bob C · « **Reply #6 on:** May 30, 2004, 05:17:33 AM »

I currently have a .358 JDJ, and with close to maximum loads that seems to me to kick worse than a 10" .44 Magnum I owned previously.

OTH, if I drop the velocities down 200 or so fps, the JDJ kicks has less perceived recoil, at least to me.

If we all wanted the same barrels, they would be hard to find!

Keith L · « **Reply #7 on:** May 30, 2004, 01:48:56 PM »

"If we all wanted the same barrels, they would be hard to find!"

I want them all!

Blunderbus · « **Reply #8 on:** May 31, 2004, 11:53:27 AM »

I have noticed on this forum, and in talking to other shooters, that a lot of guys who've shot both the 10-inch and 14-inch (frame and grip factors being equal) invariably say the Super 14 is much more pleasant to shoot. One's first impulse is to credit the extra weight of the Super 14 barrel. The weight probably helps some, but I've wondered if perhaps the extra four inches of distance between grip and muzzle has something more to do with slowing down the violence of the torque under recoil. Any mechanical engineers out there with an answer?

Blunderbus

Bug · « **Reply #9 on:** May 31, 2004, 02:59:39 PM »

Didn't always, though. If you remove the external choke, it gives you about a 6.5" effective barrel length. I can't say the recoil was unmanegeable, but the muzzle flip was horrendous. :-D Especially with fairly stiff loads & 315gr bullets. I don't think I could have made it past the 90 degree rule under IHMSA guidelines, without a death grip! :oops:
Then I came by an extra choke. I reamed it out to about 0.433"-.434" (after internal polishing). Later on, I added the extra holes, then the raked vents, a la S&W model 41. It has certainly made a difference in perceived recoil, by doing a lot to tame the flip. I can't say it made it any louder, like a muzzle brake is supposed to do; But you're gonna be deaf for a while if you fire this thing without ear protection anyway, Regardless. :shock:
You might try something like this, on your 10" bbl..............Bug