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Offline Steve E

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« on: June 25, 2004, 09:23:38 PM »
Which one of Frank DeHaas's books has a diagram of the Meriden Mdl. 10 22 l.r. in it? I noticed that there were a couple of his books that had diagrams of single shot rifles. Thanks for any help.

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« Reply #1 on: June 25, 2004, 09:58:33 PM »
Try Single Shot Actions by Frank de Haas.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2004, 07:18:03 AM »
Thanks. Anybody have the book that is willing to run off a copy of the Meriden Mdl. 10 22 l.r. schematic?

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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2004, 01:11:46 PM »
I have the book mentioned, but the Meridian is not listed.
 I'll check the other DeHaas books for a listing.
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2004, 05:32:36 PM »
Thanks Marlinman. Hey you might like a Marlin I'm having put together, it's an 1894 44 Mag. that hasn't ever shot very good for me and it's being rebarreled and rechambered to 357 B&D. Always wanted one, so I am having it built. Thanks again for checking on the schematic for me, I would have hated it when I bought the wrong book.

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« Reply #5 on: June 27, 2004, 03:55:28 PM »
Hi Steve,
 Well I found it in the second DeHaas book, "More Single Shot Rifles and Actions" It has both the Meridan #6 and #10 listed. I don't have a scanner, so I'll have to snail mail.
 *A note from DeHaas' book in the Meridan section states the actions are nearly identical to the Hopkins and Allen #722 action. He mentions they are so similar that he thought H&A made the guns for Meridan.
 If you'd like a copy of this section of the book, send me your mailing info, and I'll copy it for you. The DeHaas books are invaluable if you have any interest in single shot rifles in general.
 Sounds like your 1894 project should make an interesting chambering. I'm afraid I must admit ignorance of the .357 B&D? I don't know what the B&D stands for? I'm a bit antiquated, (like my guns) mostly old pre 1900 Marlins and single shots, so a number of the newer chamberings are Greek to me!
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2004, 04:28:01 PM »
Hi, Marlinman!

The .357 Bain & Davis was created by a pair of Los Angeles, California gunsmiths in the late 1970's.  They had a feature article in Guns & Ammo magazine describing it's features.

Basically, it was a necked-down .44 Magnum case to take .357" bullets and used in converted Ruger single action and S&W N frame revolvers.  Claimed velocities were what the original .357 Magnum in long barrels would deliver- - something like 1500-1600 fps using 158 g bullets.

It's novelty was that it was sort of a revolver version of the .357 Auto Mag, and could deliver some impressive velocities with light bullets.
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« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2004, 02:04:06 PM »
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         The B&da round is one of the easiest wildcat rounds I have ever formed. Simply run a 44 mag case into a B&D sizing die and out comes an almost perfectly formed case. Can't tell the difference visually from a formed case and a once fired case. It will run neck and neck with the 357 Maximum with 180 gr. and lighter bullets. I have several 357 B&D's and 2 357 Maximums. The round was developed in the early 60's by Keith Davis and introduced to the general public in the Jan. 1964 edition of Gun World, off hand I can't remember the author. There is a shop in Kalifornia that goes by Bain & Davis, I have been told they are not affiliated with the original B&D shop, I don't know if it is true or not, just what I have heard from several sources. It was developed as a high velocity 38 caliber round and quickly found it's way into the "silly wet" sport. The 357 Herritt came out about that time and quickly surpassed it in popularity. All in all a fun round to play and hunt with.

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