Author Topic: INBELIVABLE!!!! another pig (Read 1710 times)

howie1968 · « **on:** June 17, 2004, 06:12:03 AM »

Hey guys i kow yall might think i am full of it, but i scored again this morning. at 730 pay day nind you i decided to go check my trap that i had baited my 2 daughters decided to go, the youngest always goes but this time my 12 yr old wanted to go, as we was nearing the trap i seen a pig in the trap and actually turned out to be 2 of them a sow and a small boar, prob her little one i assume so i took the 270 with 150 gr corelokts and aimed at her left front shoulder i shot and boom she fell. so i told Christa to run the 1/2 mile to grab the digital like a fool i should have drove to the trap we were just so excited. this is the first time both girls have been with me when i have gotten a pig, anyways i was going to shoot the boar but he was going nuts in there jasmine wanted to shoot her first pig but he was going nits so i told the girls to get on top of the trap i have a wire rigged up so i can open the door in case we get one I have 10 pictures id like to share(Mike can ya hlep me buddy) thanks for listening and good shooting and good luck to all my pig hunting friends

oso45-70 · « **Reply #1 on:** June 17, 2004, 09:32:11 AM »

Howie.
Dad blame howie you gotta stop this madness, There ain't gonna be no mo
pigs when i get there, LMAO. Thats great howie, Just wish I was in the area
to do the same. I don't know for sure where in Texas you are, But as soon as i get some new soles put on my shoes i'm headed that way.
Recon how long it would take me to walk down there ? I'm poor folks can't afford a car, And if I had a car couldn't afford the gas to get there.
I'm waiting on my welfare check rite now. Take care Howie and the best of luck to you and yours. .................Joe.............................................

howie1968 · « **Reply #2 on:** June 17, 2004, 10:02:04 AM »

well luckily in this county it does not cost a whole lot to hunt pigs i live in east texas about 40 miles from louisiana wish you were around it would be alot of fun ill get these pic posted soon

wipartimer · « **Reply #3 on:** June 17, 2004, 04:03:36 PM »

:lol: You Bet howie. it may take a day or so but send the pics, i'll get them on for ya! BTW Congrats again!

oso45-70 · « **Reply #4 on:** June 17, 2004, 05:15:10 PM »

Mike,
You need to go to Texas and teach Howie to post his pictures and on your way home you could stop in NM and teach me also, I have a camera and all the hook up, But i'm too dumb to work the silly thing, Education 1
Mentality 1 Boy i'm a mess.....You all have a good one........Joe................

wipartimer · « **Reply #5 on:** June 18, 2004, 11:02:54 AM »

wipartimer · « **Reply #6 on:** June 18, 2004, 11:12:45 AM »

Good lookin young lady ya got there Howie. Way to go! :-)

howie1968 · « **Reply #7 on:** June 18, 2004, 11:28:14 AM »

went and checked my bait all gone i baited over a 1/4 mile of road with corn , i am guiding a friend tonight if he listens he will get him a pig. my big old boar has came back and he is bigger than that big one i shot to bad i am not the one hunting tonight. Thanks for posting the pictures

briarpatch · « **Reply #8 on:** June 18, 2004, 05:40:15 PM »

Fine hog, howie and I would say you enjoy having those young hunters with you. There is not much you can hunt as far I am concerned that is as good to eat as wild hog. Several years ago I used to get hogs from a local ranch in central Florida. At certain times of the year they would round up the hogs and put them in a large pen so I would go down and pick me out a couple and I would take my ruger single six with the 22 mag cylinder and pop them between the eyes or behind the ear and they would drop right now with no meat wasted. If you try the head shot next time it will save a lot of that shoulder but anyway bring on the bar b que.

howie1968 · « **Reply #9 on:** June 19, 2004, 01:59:45 AM »

jasmine is my little hunting buddy and she has progressed alot this last year the first time she seen a hog in the wild we were on a creek bank checking some traps that i had set for coons when a small boar came in on us the tears started to flow i whispered to her to sit still and all and he will never come near us(i honestly thought he would come at us) i had a marlin model 60 with me and she had a stick but since then i have slowly developed her and at the trap the other day she wanted to shoot one of the pigs, i held back as i am new to this trapping pigs ( I normally hunt them) but figured this would be an easier way for my daughter to get up and close to them and get use to them. I will tell you one thing after i shot that sow that small boar was going nuts i was going to try to get him out but instead i took a stick and poked him and he ran out of the trap. it was funny as i glanced back at my daughter and she cocked her little 22 cricket back and took aim as the little pig ran out of the trap, i figured ill let him grow up and try for him when he is a trophy boar with nice tusks

bubba15301 · « **Reply #10 on:** June 21, 2004, 04:37:53 PM »

how can you call shooting a pig in a trap hunting? it is not very sporting .

howie1968 · « **Reply #11 on:** June 22, 2004, 01:32:55 AM »

shooting a hog in the trap may not be very sporting, but sir i promise you very few people spend the amount of time i spend searching finding baiting for these pigs this is not my first pig by any means and mind you how am i supposed to get the pig out of the trap? i was posting to some of my friends on here who i talk to all the time this is not my only hog this week i do not hunt high fences or pastures i am in the milddle of no wheree i live 50 miles from a big city i killed 4 hogs this week alone and how many have you killed sir? i was posting because of the experience my 8 yr old daughter was with me and that is unbelievable!!! to have your daughter come with you when you have worked so hard trapping pigs do not just walk in a trap these pigs have been trapped before by the bioligists on my lease, and to say the least after almost a yr of trapping i have only trapped 5 hogs in this trap and have killed 18, so sir you tell me is that hunting or what? also what does it matter if i trap shoot spear as long as it is humane and not cruel to the animals to me it is hunting maybe you should come roam these thick thorn bushes and forest so thick you question why you do it, i promise after about 1 day of what i go through just scouting dealing with snakes mosquitoes exaustion youd prob quit!!! now i hope i have not offended you in anyways sir but us hunters need to stick together ber happy for each others success and slap each other on the back or one day the antis will have there wish come true good luck to you sir and i hope you have the success hunting pigs that i have
respectfully submitted Howie

oso45-70 · « **Reply #12 on:** June 22, 2004, 09:01:07 AM »

Howie,
Don't let any one git under your skin, People from up north don't have any idea what its like or what the situation is down in the brush patch of east Texas. If some one went down there and had to crowl on their belly with the rattle snakes, cotten mouths and all the crowlly biting critters they wouldn't have any thing to say, Keep up the good work howie. good luck...............Joe.................................................................................

howie1968 · « **Reply #13 on:** June 22, 2004, 09:44:39 AM »

thanks for the support, and likewise i also have respect for nothern hunters as to be honest i am a yankee i lived in upstate Ny for most of my life and the rigors of hunting in the winter is pretty rough in itself i began my hunting up north and had opputunities to hunt whitail squirrel black bear and rabbits i lived about 12 miles from the canadian border and believe me it got cold, i apologized it just rubbed me the wrong way as i spend a tremendous amount of time in the woods to at leat even the odds lol i can actually imitate a hog squeal and grunt with my mouth.

bubba15301 · « **Reply #14 on:** June 22, 2004, 03:51:47 PM »

why not run them with dogs? would you trap a deer than shoot it in the trap? is it legal in texas to do this ? i think you you should check with the state fish and game dept

wipartimer · « **Reply #15 on:** June 22, 2004, 05:59:07 PM »

bubba, I aint from texas but thats where I hog hunt. Yep, What Howie is doing is perfectly legal AND ETHICAL. Hog are a nongame species in Texas and as such maybe hunted/killed just about anyway you can think of. I have hunted them with dogs, hunted out of a stand over bait and even hunted them from a truck with a spotlight-trust me it aint like shining deer. Most land owners consider feral pigs a pest because of the collasal amount of damage they do to crops and feeders. i am also a trapper. I've never tried to trap hogs mind you, just coon, fox and coyote. The thing about trapping is, its almost completely selective. I decide whether to dispatch (shoot) the animal in my trap, or release it ,wich is exactly what Howie did, only on a bigger scale. In fact, alot of landowners would be furious with Howie for choosing to release the little boar. Do you by anychance watch alot of disney movies?

howie1968 · « **Reply #16 on:** June 23, 2004, 01:35:39 AM »

no i would not ever think about trapping a deer then shooting, part of the by-laws with Lp is to maintain a hog trap, since i am the one who enjoys hogs the most i have been selected to maintain the trap if i do not maintain a trap or follow the by-laws of our leased land then i do not have a place to hunt, on another note i am a novice hog trapper and am learning and my daughters enjoy doing with me if they found out i released a pig i would be sure to be fined or even expelled from my hunting i am obligated to trap these hogs. in Texas you have the options of hunting private land, leased land federal land or not hunting at all. like i said i have had better luck hunting pigs then trapping this was an unbelievable moment i shared with my daughter. and we are enjoying eating that tender young sow. if you lived closer i would invite you for some ribs or some tenderloin or we could smoke a ham.

TomD · « **Reply #17 on:** June 23, 2004, 04:59:45 AM »

We're with you Howie

!! You can't please everybody and you don't need to explain yourself!!

I'm from CT but my wife's family is in TX. We go there at least 4 times a year and I always hunt hogs on their land when I'm there!! To my in-laws, the pigs are like any other pest!! They make a mess of everything and breed like rabbits. I catch more hell for not taking every pig I see, than for anything else!! Including being a Yankee :grin:

Not all us Yankee's are ignorant to the way things are :grin: .

howie1968 · « **Reply #18 on:** June 23, 2004, 06:28:41 AM »

appreciate the support, and i am a yankee also!!! but these Texans sure are an awesome bunch of people Ive made it my home. what part of Texas do you hunt from? i have hunted north texas and East TX

Rmouleart · « **Reply #19 on:** June 23, 2004, 07:31:55 AM »

The way I look at it they are Varmints, Hogs destroy farming lands etc...kill them any way you can,Dinner on the table, make good table fair as well. I guess you would not call trapping, hunting, but there is a place for trapping, one reason to reduce numbers, cut down populations, those hogs can get out of hand, sometimes they get smart to the hunt, and stay in the thick stuff to elude hunters till dark, no way other than trapping them, jaw traps, cage, snare, what ever, never trapped hogs, but I will tell you trapping black bears is a lot of fun, but when releasing them stay clear, boy are they pissed off LOL. Bears pretend to be worn out, don't fall for that, if they get ahold of you, your done for, he will take out all his anger on you;) One time a huge bear got away from one of the cage traps, due to he was bigger than the cage;) the door dropped on his back and stopped the door from closing, he must of held that 400 pd door up till he terned and got out, now thats impressive, take three of us to pull that heavy door up. most of the time we catch and release, sometimes relocating bad bears to other areas, more remote, so they won't get back to dumping your garbages. Also snare bears as well, sometimes it is nice to see them alive and well, instead of dead with a big hole in them LOL. Aim small hit small. RAMbo.

howie1968 · « **Reply #20 on:** June 23, 2004, 07:39:17 AM »

i sanred a pig last year on the tolar ranch by accident i was trying to prevent the coyotes from going under the fence, come to find out it was actually pigs i i put corn in the hole and put the snare in the bottom to where a pig wuould hook his snout it worked. my question is if i do not shoot the pig in the trap how do i get it out of there, we cannot use 4 wheelers or dogs on this place i did let the little boar go but even a sow the size i killed makes me nervous i have been on the other side of one and it is not any fun, people think this may be crazy but pigs can actually jump surprisingly high let me know what you think

TomD · « **Reply #21 on:** June 23, 2004, 07:48:49 AM »

My Mother-in-law and her brother own several hundred acres in Rio Medina. 40 minutes outside of San Antonio. My brother-in-law owns another 70 acres adjacdent to that property. My mother in-law lives in the suberbs of San Antonio which is were we stay when we visit. The family property has a cabin on it and I stay there a good deal of the time.

There are Hogs everywhere!! Some bruisers too. I hunt mainly Hogs & Coyotes as an Out of state TX Deer lisence is over $250 :eek: . I buy the $40 special lisence which allows me to hunt most anything but Deer & Turkeys for 5 consecutive days. I may treat myself to a Deer license this year as its been so wet in that part of TX and that makes for big racks :grin: .

Here in CT, my brother manages a 250 acre Horse farm. I work a long day on the property each month for the priveledge of unlimited hunting on the property. Deer, Turkey's, Coyotes, WoodChucks, etc. I wish we had Hogs here, but there are so many Deer that they do enough damage. The land owner has asked me to try to fill ALL my tags this year (archery, rifle & muzzleloader) to try to reduce the population!

My little girl (4 yrs) like your youngest is really getting into learning to hunt. She's got eyes like an eagle and spots turkey's better than me!

Keep the photos coming!! I hope to be able to share some soon. The last hog I took was when we were there for Easter. Big momma hog came to my feeder with 8 piglets and left with 7, #8 came home with me

...a nice 50lb eatin pig!! After I process the meat, I freeze it. The morning we leave for home I pack it in a cooler with those frozen gel things and it stays until we get home when I put it in our freezer.

howie1968 · « **Reply #22 on:** June 23, 2004, 08:15:59 AM »

good deal i have tons of pics i carry my digital on every excursion to the land i have deer coyotes rabbits dove everything pm me and ill share some of my deer with you ive got 9 awesome deer racks id like to show you plus some sika and axis as well. Turkeys now they have my heart that is some fun hunting but to be honest they are one up on me, ive seen qite a few in north Texas but to be honest have not harvested one i bought me a mossberg turkey gun this year and plan on using it this yr during our 2 week turkey season shotgun only i have watched a big Tom for almost a year he is very graceful

TomD · « **Reply #23 on:** June 23, 2004, 09:18:45 AM »

Turkey's are so frustrating!! I've taken 1 in 3 years of trying, and never during the fall season. The one I took was Huge though!! 25 lbs dressed, 1.5 inch spurs and a 10.5 inch beard! This year I watched 3 Toms for 5 days while pig hunting in TX. Came home to CT and didn't see a Tom while hunting. I heard 2, but couldn't get them to come to me. Too many hens and really dense forest.

I see you use a 270 & 30-30 for hogs and I meant to mention in my last post the rifle that I use in TX for Hogs. I bought a WWII Surplus Japanese Arisaka M38 that was reamed from 6.5 x 50 to the 6.5 x 55 swede. I bought it for $100 from my 90 year old neighbor just before he was forced to go to a care facility. I leave it at the ranch in TX instead of hauling a rifle back & fourth each time I fly. He had sporterized it and with my hand loads its very accurate. I load both 140gr SP and 160gr RNSP bullets pushed by RL22. The last two Hogs I took were @ 100yds and the 6.5 x 55 swede knocked those pigs down & out. Both heart shots.

Someday I want to take my new Marlin 1895 in 45-70 out to TX and try that on the hogs!! I put a Williams peep sight on it instead of a scope. I'm working out handloads for over the summer.

I'll PM once I figure it out.

howie1968 · « **Reply #24 on:** June 23, 2004, 09:37:32 AM »

Another 45-70 fan!!! i am also a fan of the 45-70 although mine was a NEF i have shot them with alot of different calibers but i have killed the most with an old marlin 30Aw wal-mart version 30-30 i have also had a 6.5X55 and i loved it i have downsized my gun collection and now just hunt with a 30-30 and a 270, although i have either a guide gun or standard verion on my mind in 45-70 a ruger 1 in 7X57 is also high on my list the most powerful gun i have ever used was a rugwer numbe 1 in 375H&H mag using 300 gr softpoints i shot a large hog with it and honestly it ran 50 yards after a center shoulder shot it exited the offside shoulder and still ran on the other hand the 2 biggest pigs i have killed dropped in there tracks from a 170 gr corelokt to the shoulder. before i came to graybears and became educated i thought the 30-30 was the most powerful gun in the world i had complete confidence in that old rifle, i noticed when using that rifle i aleways was close enough to them to put a quick humane ending to them i never took running shots or bad angle shots. Once i started using these other calibers i started having bad luck i have shot 2 in the last year that i wish i could take the shots back i rushed the shots made a poor choice of angle as i figured that i had a gun that had 2 times the energy of my old 30-30 ive learned alot and now when stand hunting i use my cheap remington 710 270 this gun is remarkably accurate rivals the savages i must admit it is ugly but it suere does shoot. and when roaming i have that old 30-30 with the same tasco 3-9X40 pronghorn that i paid 29.00 for it has never changed point of impact and has seen some very hard use i use weaver base and weaver rings on it

TomD · « **Reply #25 on:** June 23, 2004, 10:10:03 AM »

The first Hog I ever took, a 150lb sow (yummy) was with my brother-in-laws Winchester model 70 in 270. It was a neck shot and the hog ran about 50 yards before expiring. Since then its the old Arisaka in 6.5x55.

I took a shot I wanted back a couple of years ago. I shot a 200lb Boar @ 100yds and my POI was a little off to the right. It was before I started to handload for more consistent shots. It was with PMC 140gr SP ammo. @ 100 yds that 6.5 x 55 swede broke both of the hogs front legs. He went down, squealed, and then got up & bolted. When I got to the impact site, there was no blood trail. I couldn't believe it!! I went in growing circles looking for blood and there was none. I went back to the impact site and sat down to listen for a while. I finally heard some rustling and went in that direction. I was not happy about chasing a 200lb, wounded, pissed of Boar Hog into the brush, but it was my fault he was there and my ethical responsibility to finish the hunt! I finally came upon blood in the direction of the first sounds that I heard. The pig was pushing himself with his rear legs and making a grove in the ground as he went. We danced a little and I finally put one behind his ear. I'm a better hunter for that experience, but I didn't like to have to use two bullets for one pig!

I have one of those ugly, synthetic stock Savages in 7mm-08 and I use it for Deer hunting out here. You cannot beat the out-of-the-box accuracy of those rifles. And, I really like the flat shooting 7mm-08 caliber. I take it out in all weather (and you know what its like out here during Deer season) and never worry about it.

I really really like my new Marlin 1895 in 45-70. Its fun to shoot and I kept it pure by using the Williams instead of a scope. I'm going to use it here in CT during Deer Rifle season when I go into the brush in poor weather to try to ambush a bedded deer.

howie1968 · « **Reply #26 on:** June 23, 2004, 10:22:35 AM »

sounds like we hunt alot alike and think the same way. i agree about savages they are awesome!!! but this darn remington 710 will shoot 3 into .75 consistantly enough to say it shoots 3/4 min of angle i have shot some partitions federal premium and remington coreloktas both shoot to similar points of impact so i will stick with this load the remingtons are cheap 10.87 for a box and if i ever get back to handloading Ill shoot a box for around 4.00 or cheaper as ill use remington bulk ammo. my little jasmine is still small 62 lbs but as she grows and is able to tolerate more gun right now she is at the 223 level she did have her a ruger 22 hornet that i had scaled to fit her and she killed a deer with it a smallish doe. the deer are not as big as up north although i have killed a couple in the 150 lb range. Jasmine may step up to the 243 maybe next year but if she does so ill load some good bullets at a medium velocity to start her out on she has a youth nef lightweight that she shoots very well at 50 yards that uis her limit as far as from a rest. for a little girls she shoots very well. her little crickett 22 has killed a mess of squirrel this year and the rabbits have fared no better. she is till after her first pig and had the oppurtunity to shoot that little boar in the trap, when i released him but i told her to decock her rifle as i was not confident she coulp put a humane shot on a pig with a 22. i do no some old timers who seriously hunt themn with a 22 but that is not for me!!!! i need all the bullet i c an get

TomD · « **Reply #27 on:** June 24, 2004, 02:34:15 AM »

In CT, you have to be 12 yrs old and have completed the Gun/Hunting safety course before you can hunt. My 4.5 yr old comes with me for scouting until then.