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Offline Trapper Ryan

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Any of you ever try.......(beaver)
« on: July 23, 2004, 08:27:19 PM »
Any of you ever try using a beaver float to catch beavers with 280s and 380s? If so how did you make them? Also Have you ever tried building a castor mound on the float guarded by a conibear?
I'd like to try a castor mound on a float sometime in the near future as I think it would be a good taker for the wise guys?
Whats your input on this?

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« Reply #1 on: July 24, 2004, 04:15:24 AM »
i have seen floats for beavers useing leholds but not connibears. if you use legholds i would go with at least a #4 or #5.  #3 is the biggest trap we can use out of water here, but we can use a up to a #5 if any part of the trap is touching  the water. i have also heard of useing snares at floating sets, here half the loop has to be under the water so it wouldn't work that well. check your laws and experiment. good luck.

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« Reply #2 on: July 24, 2004, 11:40:42 AM »
Thanks for the reply bob.
I know edge uses floats and I think he is a member here.
For foot hold traps I use a #4s and MB750s going to get a few CDRs to try this season.

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« Reply #3 on: July 24, 2004, 12:19:57 PM »
Ryan,I have 1 spot I have always wanted to place a float.I will be using a 330 .I have a cedar treee,that has to be cut downMy float will be made from this.When I erect it,I will let you know the dimensions.
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« Reply #4 on: July 24, 2004, 07:38:35 PM »
Thanks Tom, Cant wait till you get it done. Could you possibly post pics of it when you get it done?
Thanks,Ryan

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« Reply #5 on: August 02, 2004, 12:21:00 PM »
Ryan,

They are extremly easy to make and work well in the right situation.

Imagine if you would two pices of dry cedar logs bout 3 feet long cut at a angle of 45 degrees on one end.

Nail the two pieces together from both sides to form a triangle.

On the open end nail a cross piece of plywood or two by four  on the underside of the logs to form a brace and ledge to set your conibear on.

In the top portion of your triangle nail another piece of wood to the top side, this can be anything at all cause its only purpose is for a lure holder .

Lastly, take a trap and set it so you can get the correct span for your stabalizers.........1/4 20 threaded rod works well , position the trap on the front ledge and mark a spot on the wood where the two springs are closest to the jaws, drill a 5/16 hole thru the ledge and fasten your stabalizers on the top and bottom w/ nuts, now all you have to do is set the trap and slide it down over the rods to keep it upright.

Hopefull this will help ..........
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« Reply #6 on: August 02, 2004, 12:23:22 PM »
And another note............if your front is too heavy and wants too sink too much add some styrofoam to the underside of the ledge w/ a couple of roofing nails
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« Reply #7 on: August 08, 2004, 02:06:24 PM »
Trapper Ryan,  When you said  'ever try Beaver'?                                 I thought for a moment that you were referring to eating one,                      They are fine, whereas Coon taste good but it is impossibe to chew them up! I used to cook some out in woods at night,  when the hounds were working out the thicket.  Build a fire,  make hot tea,  or chocolate powder drink,  and when the fire is down to coals,   throw in the potato I had sliced up and rolled in lots of thick!!!   tin foil,  with margerine, salt,  pepper, garlic powder,  pre mixed in with the potato in the tin foil.                                               Just throw it inthe fire.
And cook the Coon meat sliced, and on a green stick,                                so it would cook fast.            
The Coon tasted like a roast,  I would chew till my jaws ached,                 then  spit the Coon out and get another.  Coon is fine as is Beaver but Beaver is just  not as  tough as Coon.

              Of course after a while I realized that is not what you meant.

Ya'll were talking about floating sets for Beaver !   Well, I have one.          I told someone 20 years ago,  and it got back to a friend on the Sherriffs dept.  Old Lt. Goggins.   Next time he saw me,  he mentioned the Beaver floating trap.  J. Knife...  he said,  I heard about your design for your floating Beaver trap, and called a friend up in Colorado, a game warden,  who knew about such things.  The friend all excited, asked the Lt. if he knew if this design had ever been used, and the Lt. said no,  just a design.  The game warden dude from Colorado said that  every trap would have a Beaver in it !  And this design  would mean the end of the species.                               It would mean extermination!  
                 
                            Like the minefield set, I never intended to use it  the design, it just came to me one day, like the old minefield set.               Although the minefield set was considered totally practical, by some of the trappers here in the beard.
And I just may use it next season.

            The design for the floating Beaver trap set up, is as follows.

                       Get a piece of plywood 100%   50%   what ever size
is irrelevant.     Wire some floatation under the plyboard,  I would recommend  styrofoam,  and it should float nearly 1' out of the water.
Wire a trap {any size}  to a brick with just the normal trap chain,          and the brick to the board with a longer wire,  length 3-4-5-6 feet.  
Set traps all around the floating board, as many as there is room for.  
and set the bricks right behind the traps.
           
       Cover each trap with a pile of corn.  Anchor the floating board to the bottom of a pond and don't worry have a homebrew.

          The Colorado game warden,  the friend of old Lt. Goggins,   who was so horrified upon hearing of my,  'End of the world trap for geese',           said when asked,  that  "every trap would have a goose in it the next morning, and that it would be so effective as to sink the whole floatingboard, board styrafoam and all,  from their weight!                       So tie a float on a line, maybe two !       To mark the floating board,      "The board of doom"  


    Now fellers,  I said I would never make one of these, and I meant it!
And I never have!   I won't shoot geese either and don't remember ever doing so.  I love and respect geese.  I love to see them flying and calling, more than I like money or old dark greesy goose meat!
They are profoundly beautiful, as beautiful of a thing as there is on this earth in this life!             To kill them for money,                                        is like killing something you love, for a dime!
In fact Mr. Bog,   I would not be offended if you deleted this one, because as great of an idea as it is, and an interesting concept too,                  someone may do it and I love geese!   I really do!
I just don't want one killed, but on the other hand I am a trapper!
So these things come to me.                      
                                                                                                         

                                                      J. Knife
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« Reply #8 on: August 08, 2004, 02:13:48 PM »
Correction:   Bottom of the second paragraph I said,  the Colorado game warden dude said:     "Every trap would have a Beaver it the next morning".       Well,    duh!    I  meant Goose!     Sorry.     Knife
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« Reply #9 on: August 08, 2004, 06:14:08 PM »
Ryan I had a beaver trapping book that had the the following. Two dead logs  about 6to8ins in diamiter  30 to 36 ins. long.On one end of both logs take a chainsaw and notch them out so a 330 conibear springs will fit up in them.Cross them to make a   V  put the 330 in the notchs  mark the  V where they cross.Cut that angle with the chainsaw,then nail them together with some pole barn nails.Just behind the notchs on the bottom nail  some plywood  or what ever to make the beaver have to comeup thru the conibear.The conibear trigger should be under water.
You may have to do some experimenting with it  to have it float level.
 I made one several years ago  never used it much to heavy to mess with.
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« Reply #10 on: August 08, 2004, 09:21:50 PM »
Thanks for the post guys. I wont try that set either J. Knife, as I'm after beaver not goose.
Howell Reeves, would the conibear be completely submerged? In iowa a conibear over 8" must be completely submerged.
Thanks,
Ryan

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« Reply #11 on: August 09, 2004, 03:10:02 AM »
Ryan  the conibear should be about  halfway out of the water so the beaver wiil try to go thru it to the lure. Oh I forgot put some good lure on some type of lure holder.Some that wiil not let the lure wash away. Tie off or anchor the float in the middle of the stream.
  If the conibear has to be submerged  this set is illegal in your state.

Howell Reeves