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Offline andrewman

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« on: June 25, 2004, 05:53:23 PM »
Has anyone had any first hand experience with this product or is it another gimmick?

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« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2004, 03:00:58 PM »
Gen-U-Wine snake oil! But the guy selling it (can't remember his name at the moment) was plenty entertaining on the various internet forums a few years ago. Is he still around? I was impressed with his ability to make unprovable claims for the stuff!
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« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2004, 03:39:17 PM »
andrew;    do you mean the moly coating on bullets??

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« Reply #3 on: June 29, 2004, 12:07:49 AM »
No, there's a product called "moly fusion" and it's supposed to be the greatest breakthrough since elastic in underwear. The maker claimed it chemically altered the metal that it was applied to making it very wear resistant.
 Thank's nobade, I got a bit suspicious when I saw all the testamonials. all it needed was the "as seen on tv" logo to top it off.

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« Reply #4 on: June 29, 2004, 07:13:50 AM »
I've not had direct experience with 'MolyFusion' but have a little with moly coatings.  Molybdinum Dysulphide(sp.) has a tendancy to bond with other metals.  It is applied at home using vibrating case cleaners and steel shot.  The bullets, moly powder and the shot are put into a plastic jar and inserted into the case cleaner.  The shot act to carry and apply the moly powder to the surface of the bullets.  It is very difficult to remove once applied..  That's the biggest complaint.  If it gets into a rifle bore it is bonded to the steel and is nearly impossible to remove chemically.  Also the stuff will bond to metallic fouling in the bore.  Greatly increasing the difficulty of bore cleaning..  Moly is a powerful lubricant so it would likely greatly increase the life of any high pressure bearing surfaces..  I use it on sear contacts and slide rails...works fine..
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« Reply #5 on: July 01, 2004, 10:24:11 PM »
gunnut, I've heard alot of conflicting stories about moly coated bullets with regard to fouling ranging from "it's almost impossible to remove" to "'it makes cleaning alot faster and easier" both from guy's who's opinion I hold in high regard and both who do ALOT of shooting. I guess I'm going to have to find out for myself- and all with a nice new barrel too. (when it turns up)

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« Reply #6 on: July 02, 2004, 05:04:09 AM »
I too have heard the conflicting reports.  Moly is a high pressure, high temp, lubricant.  I can't say if it helps velocities or reduces fouling although I wouldd have some doubts about both.  On bullets it does help with velocities and it can create cleaning problems, expecially if the bore is not clean before the moly is used.  I would use an electronic cleaner to be truly sure the jacket fouling is gone.  I just find it too much trouble for so little gain.  Once applied to the bore either by actually applying it or by firing coated bullets it is very difficult to remove.
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