Glocks are uncomfortable junk!

[Prebanpaul]

I just have to throw my two sensce in here. If my gun kills people, rosie o's spoon makes her fat.       on the same token, I point all my guns. didnt know that a gun could point its self.  just joking.  but here I will give you a tip.  take your pointing finger and place it down the side of your gun and practice from the draw pointing your gun for about 10 mins (100 tiimes) i promise it wont happen again. that is you pointing it high.

Glock rule

[Savage]

The grip angle of a pistol deterimines the instinctive pointability. When I go from Glocks to 1911s/Sigs/CZs, or the otherway around.  I usually get about halfway thru a match before the pistol comes to eye level in proper alignment. The CZ platform is the most ergonomic, and instinctively points better for most people IMO, based on my experience.
Savage

[Feldhege]

Dont get your panties in a wad, ...    Dave 375hh, (censored word) you and the troll comment. I am not a troll looking to get a rise, just looking for some help with a gun issue. I have bought lots of gun that did not work out lots that did. I am sure with a little work the glock will work also.

Well, if you look at the comments you are posting, you can see where someone would get that idea. I sure did. The subject line you chose for this post, the "Some what lame forum" comments, etc. If you want help, (and people know the answer of course) they will usually post. Remember, this is a free forum so unless you want to pony up some money to help GB improve this, you may want to bite your tongue a little.

As for your question, You might check places like Robar and see if they can modify the grip for you. I know they have a service that will change the stock grip into one more like a 1911. Maybe that would help. My G19 points and shoots great at self defense yardages. You may also want to check out www.glocktalk.com and do a search. There were several people who had grip mods done to make it fit their hands.

Robb

[azmike]

The grip angle of a pistol deterimines the instinctive pointability. When I go from Glocks to 1911s/Sigs/CZs, or the otherway around.  I usually get about halfway thru a match before the pistol comes to eye level in proper alignment.

+1

I carry a Beretta at work, and a Steyr S40 (similar grip angle to the Glock) at home/off duty.  After shooting a few hundred through the Steyr, I have to shoot the Beretta a bit to get reacquainted to the different grip angle, or I find myself pointing low with it.  I find the Steyr/Glock grip angle more natural, actually.  YMMV.  

Short version, I suggest more practice with the Glock and less with the 1911s if you want to feel better about Glock pointability.  Or don't shoot them both in the same range session for a little while, at least.  That might help make the transition easier for you.

As far as this board being "lame", that's the reason I am here.  The constant  bickering and personal nonsense on some other forums gets very tiresome to sift through.  If not having that here means there is less traffic and fewer responses to posts, that's fine by me.  No offense taken to your original post, but please note that some folks like a more low key environment.

Compliments to Graybeard on running a tight ship.  It is appreciated.

[phydaux]

:roll:  Try  this;  break wrist, put Glock in hand, have Doc to put cast arround hand and Glock, wait 6-8 weeks, have cast removed, check aim!!!!!

[S.S.]

I bought one of the first Glocks that came out of the
Smyrna, Ga. assembly facility (I lived close enough to have squirrel/deer hunted in the woods that were there before the industrial park they are in was built). So I have an EARLY model. I do not see how a handgun with a back swept grip and a deep web area can point up if properly held in the hand unless intentionally done so. The ergonomics simply should prevent it? If anything, it seems as if it should point low?

[azmike]

I bought one of the first Glocks that came out of the
Smyrna, Ga. assembly facility (I lived close enough to have squirrel/deer hunted in the woods that were there before the industrial park they are in was built). So I have an EARLY model. I do not see how a handgun with a back swept grip and a deep web area can point up if properly held in the hand unless intentionally done so. The ergonomics simply should prevent it? If anything, it seems as if it should point low?

I am used to shooting a pistol with a grip angle more perpendicular to the barrel (in my case, a Beretta 96).  Going from that to a Glock results in my naturally pointing the Glock high, until I get used to the different grip angle.  Then, going back to the Beretta, I have to get used to the different grip angle, or I point low.  Of course I use the sights, but when the pistol is just coming up from the holster, my grip naturally points the two guns to different points, because I have not retrained my hands to compensate for the different grip angle.  

Not anything wrong with either design, but it is something to be aware of when switching back and forth between different pistols, especially for defensive use, IMO.

[R J Kellems]

I have a Glock 17 in 9mm.  I've never had a problem with it.

I'm not sure what you mean by pointing up???

The biggest piece of junk I ever owned, seriously, was a Paraordinance P10 45.
RJ

[kyote]

yep,I think you are correct "uncomfortable junk"you either gotta love a glock are hate it.they have the unsupported chamber (which is a good thing in a way)but I don't like it.the trigger pulls lacks in every way that I can think of.even after putting a lighter one in.and the barrel points up when in battery.or, at least it looks like it does.It is one of the few pistols that I could not take out to the range and shoot it well right off the bat.It took me weeks and bucoo ammo to get to where I wanted to be with it.the gun never malfunctioned.I have owned many and have always sold them.to some one else.I bought a 40 m-23 several years back.it is the longest I have kept one.But I was determined to learn to shoot it as well as my other revolvers and pistols.as they have such a large following.

[BLKLABMAN]

If you hold a Sig (P220/226/229) in one hand and a Glock in the other. While keeping both hands pointing in the same direction, at the same level the Glock will point slighty upwards.
To each his own.
I have sold my other makes of semi-auto's, because Glocks feel and work better for me. I now own 5 of them.

[Cottonwood]

Does anyone else smell a troll in here?

Glocks are natural pointers, its the shooter who must conform if they are used to shooting something else.

[WL44]

Not true. You need to "evolve" to whatever you shoot!

I shoot a Para in IPSC and also own a Glock 23C and a CZ75.

You make adjustments yourself regarding where a gun points. When I transitioned to the 1911 platform my Para pointed low. Now it's spot on and my Glock points high. Still, a CZ "feels" the best of the lot, but doesn't point exactly right for me anymore either.

Friends who have moved from Standard Class (1911 double stacks) to Production Class (generally Glock) or vice versa have had similar problems.

Draw and dry fire and a bit of range time will sort you out in a couple of weeks. You automatically adjust how you "settle" the gun from the draw. You should practice until you can stand in front of a target, close your eyes and draw and aim, open your eyes and be pretty much "on target". It's all determined by what you are accustomed to and you can practise yourself into either. It's all in the wrist :-).

Put a dot on a 1911 and it'll also not "point right" for you coming from open sights which are lower over the bore axis.

If you shoot a 1911 a lot and want to make your Glock more "1911-like" you can do a grip reduction and take out the severe arch of the backstrap. I may do it myself at some point.

Brownell's discusses it at the Tech Section on their website.

Wim

[WL44]

Not true. You need to "evolve" to whatever you shoot!

I shoot a Para in IPSC and also own a Glock 23C and a CZ75.

You make adjustments yourself regarding where a gun points. When I transitioned to the 1911 platform my Para pointed low. Now it's spot on and my Glock points high. Still, a CZ "feels" the best of the lot, but doesn't point exactly right for me anymore either.

Friends who have moved from Standard Class (1911 double stacks) to Production Class (generally Glock) or vice versa have had similar problems.

Draw and dry fire and a bit of range time will sort you out in a couple of weeks. You automatically adjust how you "settle" the gun from the draw. You should practice until you can stand in front of a target, close your eyes and draw and aim, open your eyes and be pretty much "on target". It's all determined by what you are accustomed to and you can practise yourself into either. It's all in the wrist :-).

Put a dot on a 1911 and it'll also not "point right" for you coming from open sights which are lower over the bore axis.

If you shoot a 1911 a lot and want to make your Glock more "1911-like" you can do a grip reduction and take out the severe arch of the backstrap. I may do it myself at some point.

Brownell's discusses it at the Tech Section on their website.

Wim

[Dee]

Here's a modification you can perform your self and it works. I have used this for years when officers were trying to qualify and were shooting high. Take a 3/4" wide rubber band MADE FROM A BICYCLE INNERTUBE and slip it over the bottom of the grip. This many times pulls the muzzle down.