Author Topic: Rebore (Read 3058 times)

leadbutt · « **on:** January 02, 2003, 03:32:32 PM »

Any one know of a smith that will bore out a H&R handi rifle bbl?
Have an extra one in 45-70 and want a 33 Winchester

Double D · « **Reply #1 on:** January 02, 2003, 04:20:11 PM »

You have a 45-70 and you want it rebored to .33 Winchester?

I doesn't work that way. By reboring you take a smaller caliber and make it larger.

If you want to make a 45-70 into a .33 Winchester, you could reline. Are you going to make a true .33 Winchester or a 33 Winchester on a .338 bbl. The .33 winchester is not the same size as the .338. I don't have acess to my library right now, but I am unaware of anyone making .33 bbls that could be made into a liner. Probably cost you as much the rifle is worth to get done.

leadbutt · « **Reply #2 on:** January 03, 2003, 11:16:04 AM »

No guys I know what I'm talking about,to change the caliber to a smaller one you first have to bore out the rifling and chamber then insert a barrel liner, and then rechamber for that round have had it done several times on old 1886 lever guns,but can't find any one to work on the H&R/ NEF/Marlin types.

86er · « **Reply #3 on:** January 03, 2003, 12:56:37 PM »

The 33WCF is indeed a .338. I'm not sure if the NEF guns are available in that caliber, though. Maybe you can find a 30-30 barrel and go from there. The 33 is a great cartridge, too.
Regards, Mike[/img]

Joel · « **Reply #4 on:** January 03, 2003, 01:14:45 PM »

Got this from the NEF-Singleshot site over on Yahoogroups. These are companies/individuals who are willing to work on NEF's.

Wells Sport Store
Dan Pederson
110 N. Summit Ave,
Prescott, AZ
928-445-3655
www.cutrifle.com

Redmans Rifling and Reboring
Randall Redman
189 Nichols Rd.
Omak, WA 98841
509-826-5512

Starlight Enterprises
Randy Selby
1502 Bleistein Ave.
Cody, WY 82414
307-587-3581

LaBounty Precision Reboring Inc.
Cliff Labounty
7968 Silver Lake Rd.
Maple Falls, WA 98266
360-599-2047

Siegrist Gun Shop
Al Siegrist
8752 Turtle Rd.
Whittmore, MI 48770
989-873-3929

Don't know anything about them, prices, etc. Do know one of the members is having four barrels rebored and/or rechambered, but don't remember which one's doing it.

Double D · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2003, 02:09:22 PM »

Yes Leadbutt, you're right in order to to install a liner the barrel is bored or drilled out, removing the old rifling so the liner can be slipped in. It's one step in barrel lining. Its a fairly straight forward process.

Reboring is when you drill out a barrel of one calliber and rerifle it to a larger caliber. Say reboring a 30 calliber barrel to 35 caliber.

That's where you confused us.

As far as the job you want, it should a fairly simple job that any good gunsmith can do. All that is required is to make liner from any .338 barrel blank and bore out the old rifling and glue the liner in place, then chamber.

My only concern would be is the old barrel thick enough to be drilled out. Beyond that it should work

Actually sound like a pretty neat project, and I for one would like to hear how it comes out.

Go for it!

Joel · « **Reply #6 on:** January 04, 2003, 03:56:14 AM »

Don't think a.338 barrel will work. The 33 Win I believe is a "true" 33 cal and runs .333. I did see one NEF in 33 Win at a different forum.
What the guy did was get his SB2 fitted for a shotgun barrel. He then cut off the shotgun barrel, leaving the latch/ejector part still attached. He then sweated, I believe, a new barrel bored/chambered for the 33 Win into shotgun "stub" an had a 33 Win. Even made a custom stock for it. He posted a picture; good looking rifle. Did the same thing to make a 32/40 an' a couple of other calibers. Guy was one of those "talented amatuers" an had no desire to make them as a business.

86er · « **Reply #7 on:** January 04, 2003, 06:05:06 AM »

Joel, I've been shooting Hornady's number 3310(.338) 200 gr. RN bullets in my .33WCF for a long time. It is their recommended bullet for this cartridge. I haven't tried any .333s, though. If I can find some I might give 'em a try. My '86 is a very late gun made in 1934 and has a like new bore. The Hornady bullets provide excellent accuracy and game taking quality.
With kindest regards, Mike

leadbutt · « **Reply #8 on:** January 04, 2003, 12:02:41 PM »

Thanks for the post guys,86 yours and mine were made in the same year,have one that started life as a 33 but is now a 38-56wcf.
Have a linner already,a friend of mine is a former gunsmith for Colonial Williamsburg and had an older 338 bbl from some other project,and has agree to turn it down,he just won't do the rest as he says he has no way to keep the pilot straight in the bore
You should see his muzzle loaders though!!!!!
Rare things that they are,Flint locks only he doesn't like them new fangled Percussion locks

86er · « **Reply #9 on:** January 04, 2003, 02:27:56 PM »

Leadbutt, tell me that you didn't turn a last year production '86 into a 38-56?! It just can't be true!!

leadbutt · « **Reply #10 on:** January 05, 2003, 10:39:45 AM »

86 no choice the old gentleman I bought it from believed in black powder,"it shoots harder" bbl was a wash out even after sonic cleaning and JB bore paste

RicMic · « **Reply #11 on:** January 05, 2003, 03:04:46 PM »

The last gunsmith listed above, Siegrist, will rechamber a NEF barrel for about $75.00. Going to have my 357Mag NEF done into a 35Rem.

86er · « **Reply #12 on:** January 05, 2003, 03:42:49 PM »

I'm cryin' Leadbutt. What'ta shame. I wasn't aware that black was even available at that time. Maybe the 38-56 can be loaded to high velocity. My 38-56 was made in 1890, so I keep the smokeless loads down to "reasonable" levels. Your gun should've been made into a 45-90, though. Now THAT is a rightous cartridge.
Cheers, Mike

leadbutt · « **Reply #13 on:** January 08, 2003, 11:17:47 AM »

86,45-90 I have,I have managed over the last years to put together what I call my Buff hunt'en guns all 86's, 33,38-56{now},45-70,45-90,45-110 some day I will find that little old lady selling off her grand dady's guns and pick up the 50-110 or 33 lite weight

mart · « **Reply #14 on:** January 16, 2003, 06:11:55 PM »

leadbutt,
There is or was a fellow in Klamath Falls, OR that was doing relining work. His name is Mark Bienke (pronounced Bin-Key) and he does all kinds of relining to many of the older calibers. He did a Winchester 1890 22 WRF for me. The bore was atrocious on this little rifle and he relined it back to 22 WRF like original and and it drives tacks at 50 yards now. It seems like it was $160 dollars for the job, but that was ten years ago. I have his number, but we just moved and all of that stuff is buried in the storage unit till we find a house to buy. I am sure he can be found through information. His work is first rate in my humble opinion and I am sure he could do the job. Best of luck. Mart

86er · « **Reply #15 on:** January 17, 2003, 05:11:43 PM »

Hey, leadbutt. Gotta love the 1886. You're doin' the right thing by putting that collection together. I've been after 'em for a coon's age, and will never have enough. My real interest is in the latest of the series; those guns made mid 1910s to 1935. I do own some early ones, though. I'm lucky enough to have three extra light wts, a .33, a 45-70, and a 45-90; all takedowns. Some folks decry the TD as being inaccurate;believe me, that has not been a problem here. Honest 1886 Winchesters are rapidly disappearing into collections, so are increasing in price accordingly. Get 'em while you can.