Help with identifying a projectile

[TScottO]

This was discussed over at shooter.com when they were still around but since I have been unable to locate information on this particular bullet. There was a modern day gunman who designed this bullet from my understanding. This bullet had a fairly large meplat. The frontal area of the bullet was divided in half by an inverted wedge carved into the tip. The principal behind this was for the bullet to open up like a wing nut upon impact. They were expensive to make thus production ended but their stopping power was said to be unequalled for the caliber. I believe a custom bullet maker was suppose to reintroduce this to the market.

Does anyone recall what I’m talking about?

Be Safe,
Scott

[Savage]

Jim Cirillo of the NYC stakeout team designed a bullet that sounds like the one you are talking about.
Savage

[S.S.]

Jim Cirillo came up with several designs, And their
use with the NYC Stakeout squad had a dramatic
effect on crime in NYC. I have read several reports
on their activities and they were quite impressive.
The design that I liked the most has been recreated
recently. It looks like a wide hollowpoint that has been filed
down to look like a row of sharp teeth then crowned with a
plastic tip to give it a round nose profile. The plastic is necessary
to give positive feeding in semi-autos, but it negates the purpose of the teeth. They were meant to bite into a target at any angle and not
deflect. A similar round was created many years ago for
bowling pin matches. They would bite into the pins without
glancing off. I have seen them in a magazine recently, but
I can't remember who makes them. I will post as soon as I
find the name.

[papajohn428]

I remember an ad for a company called Kaswer that made the "pin-grabber" designs in the late 80's or early 90's.  The pin-grabber was an offshoot of Cirillo's design, which he designed for the stakeout teams he worked on.  The idea was that fairly often, the only shot he had at a bad guy was at the head, and he wanted a design that was less likely to skip off.  The teeth tended to bite into the bone and thin flesh and then penetrate past it.  IIRC, Cirillo preferred auto pistols but to use those toothy slugs he was stuck with revolvers.  

Now THERE'S a guy I'd like to have a beer with!

Papajohn

[michbob]

S. Sumner:

Tha company is called Extreme Shock USA:

www.EXTREMESHOCKUSA.com

Looks like pretty nasty ammo with a pretty nasty price! :shock:

Michbob