I don't know how you guys may feel about this, but there is a lot of public land in the Parish/Redfield area, which is just inside the northern zone. It is possible to apply for doe permits in this area, and the deer density may be a little better than the Adirondacks. It is still woodsy and hilly, and may be a more convenient drive for some. After the first weekend, the hunters stop coming as much, and it may not be so crowded. I have seen lots of deer sign and deer up there, I just haven't tagged one yet. It is possible to get turned around up there, but it isn't so big that you are going to wander around until you die, you will always be within a couple miles of some sort of road.