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Offline patrickvol

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question about dies
« on: July 25, 2004, 09:57:16 AM »
i am going to start reloading for my colt 44mag and ready to buy my dies. i have reloaded my for sometime and never needed to crimp anything till i tried to load my 30/30 and i will get a lee crimp dies for that, but i need pros and cons of and what dies ro get for it. all my rifles dies are rcbs but if something like the lee that would have a factory crimp dies do better and if not better easier?
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« Reply #1 on: July 25, 2004, 10:25:50 AM »
All revolver cartridge dies have the ability to roll crimp. Lee dies are less expensive but the way the lock ring works sucks IMHO. I have several Lee die sets and have bought replacement lock rings and there went my savings. :wink:
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« Reply #2 on: July 25, 2004, 10:40:24 AM »
I agree with Dave completely.  The Lee dies give you, to use a pun, more bang for your buck.  But he is also right about the lock rings.  They are the single most feature of Lee dies I dont like.  You can get different ones like RCBS or Hornady lock rings which are much better for just a couple bucks a pair.  That or if your handy with tools I suppose you could drill then tap for a locking screw.  But the Factory crimp die is well worth the money.
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« Reply #3 on: July 25, 2004, 10:48:22 AM »
i was thinking the lees might be a easier way to go. when i tried to seat and crimp with my rcbs dies for my 30/30 and found out it was not what i wanted to do so i am going to get a factory crimp for the 30/30, and looks like i will get the less set with the crimp die.

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« Reply #4 on: July 25, 2004, 02:54:47 PM »
Buy carbide dies.

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I like the Lee FC dies
« Reply #5 on: July 25, 2004, 10:19:36 PM »
I like the Lee Factory crimp dies for my 30-30 and especially for my 348 win.  I don't like the Lee Lock rings either.  I do the rest of the work with RCBS dies.  
 
Jack C -  I don't get your  comment. Yeah carbides for sizing straight wall cartridges but is there such a thing for 30-30 or other bottle necks?  And that wouldn't answer the bullet crimping question on the original post here.

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« Reply #6 on: July 26, 2004, 12:26:56 AM »
Lee are about the only handgun dies I buy anymore.
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Re: I like the Lee FC dies
« Reply #7 on: July 26, 2004, 02:24:56 AM »
Quote from: Dand

 
Jack C -  I don't get your  comment. Yeah carbides for sizing straight wall cartridges but is there such a thing for 30-30 or other bottle necks?  And that wouldn't answer the bullet crimping question on the original post here.

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Although I agree that the orignal poster's 2nd sentence seemed to indicate that he wanted to know what dies to buy for his 30-30, his first sentence said he was about to start loading .44 mags and was ready to buy dies for it. I assumed that that was really what he was asking about.

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« Reply #8 on: July 26, 2004, 08:02:09 AM »
i have mostly all rcbs die except a few my 7 mag are redding an my 7-30 an 30-30 are lee  the lee set for my 30-30 are the 3 die set with the crimp die with it an i like them alot i did order a different 30 cal. seating stem though them to load pointed bullets with it instead of round nose an got better seating when i loaded 150 gr nbts

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« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2004, 10:56:24 AM »
yep i was asking about dies for my 44. sorry for the confuesion
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« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2004, 03:39:13 PM »
I'll jump in and say to get the RCBS carbibe dies with the roll crimp for your .44 :-D
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« Reply #11 on: July 27, 2004, 03:36:14 PM »
What type of press are you loading on?

I use a progressive and will only buy Dillon dies with separate seating and crimp dies.  Similar principle to the factory crimp die - different approach.

With Lee and RCBS PISTOL dies, I have a terrible time of getting the shell into the sizing dies.  Dillon has a larger bell to feed easier - quicker.

Carbide dies don't need lubrication for straight walled cases.

If you are planning on doing a lot of reloading on a progressive, buy the Dillon.  If you only shoot a little - anything will work.  Carbide just makes it easier.

I dislike reloading and want to get it done safely and quickly as possible for more range time.
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