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Offline Braden

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What exactly is the Clinton assault aeapons ban?
« on: July 26, 2004, 06:42:11 PM »
What exactly are the terms of the Clinton imposed assault weapons ban?  I only have a basic idea of what it actually is and could use some specification.  Also, when is it suppossed to be "enulled?"  What are all yalls opinions on this issue?

I, for one, disagree with the semi-auto ban.  I know the "idea" is to get weapons out of the streets and supposedly lessen the crime rate, but has that realy happened?  First of all... CRIMINALS DONT FOLLOW LAWS.  These laws hurt people who abide by the laws, but have no effect on those that do not.  Secondly... CRIMINALS HAVE ALL SORTS OF WAYS TO GET WHAT THEY WANT. Whether it be the black market or some other connection, if they want guns, theyll get them.  and even if they dont get them, then...
THEY WILL STILL FIND SOME WAY TO KILL, ROB, OR VANDALIZE IN ANOTHER WAY (which is my last point.)  Criminals will do what they do by whatever means necessary-whether it be with a full-auto ar-15 or with a bamboo spear.

 Just my two cents

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Assualt weapons ban
« Reply #1 on: July 27, 2004, 02:22:11 AM »
First, the Clinton assualt weapon ban has absolutely nothing what so ever to do with assult weapons in any way shape or form.

What it does have to do with is a variety of semi-automatic firearms with military styling or cosmetics.  The anti-gun crowd has deliberately misused the term "assualt weapon" in referring to these firearms in order to misslead the general public into thinking they are something evil.

The ban was passed with a ten year sunset clause.  It expires in September unless the congress critters renew it.

Among items banned are magazines holding more than ten rounds and manufactured after the ban went into effect.  Flash suppressors, bayonet fittings, and some stocks are affected.

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What exactly is the Clinton assault aeapons
« Reply #2 on: July 27, 2004, 07:55:04 AM »
what exactly is classified as an assault weapon?  i must admit i'm really only interested in sporting guns so i don't know a lot about the types of weapons involved, but i personally would call any semi-auto rifle with a 20+ round magazine an assault rifle... i'd be interested in hearing a definition others use.

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What exactly is the Clinton assault aeapons
« Reply #3 on: July 27, 2004, 10:19:21 AM »
If the liberal crowd had their way even Ruger 10-22's and many semi-auto shotguns would be considered assault rifles. That was and is the main problem with an assault rifle (weapon) ban. It is the broad definition of what exactly one is. Kind of a back door way of gun control.>John

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Assualt wepaon definition
« Reply #4 on: July 27, 2004, 10:43:47 AM »
First the term "weapon" is too broad as the only assault weapon is the assault rifle.

The German military introduced the assault rifle during WWII.

Since then an assault rifle has been defined as a short light military rifle (more or less carbine length) capable of selective fire, that is, two or three modes, semi-automatic, full automatic, and optionally burst mode, that fires a cartridge that is smaller and reduced in power compared to the standard infantry rifle load in order to keep recoil within manageble limits.

Now days the assault rifle has become the standard infantry weapon.  The M16 is an assault rifle, note the 223 cartridge is smaller and lower in power than the 30-06.  The AK47 is an assault rifle using the 7.62x39 cartridge, smaller than the 7.62x54R cartridge that preceded it.

Note that the so called "AK47" you constantly hear about in the news is invariably NOT an AK47 but rather an AK47 look like semi-auto only.  (Cosmetics are everything in this game, ignore real substantial differences.)

Not also, that the term assault rifle, properly used, does not include handguns or submachine guns.

Note that on the network news and in anti-gun propaganda the so called "assault weapons" are invariably described as "high power" in spite of the fact that they use cartridges reduced in power from those used in standard rifles.  This is a word game, facts need not apply.

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What exactly is the Clinton assault aeapons
« Reply #5 on: July 27, 2004, 10:46:35 AM »
i understand what you're saying, but my question was specifically directed at unspellable's comments about misusing the term.  I'm not trying to pick a fight here, I'm just curious what definition those of you more familiar with these guns than me would use.

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What exactly is the Clinton assault aeapons
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2004, 04:59:36 AM »
Unspeakable was giving the military ( who were the first to coin the term and the one's who rightly should ) definition.

What liberal swine mean when they say "assault weapon" is, literally, anything they think even looks threatening to them. I'm not making this up, Diane Fienstein and some of her staff who know virtually knowing about firearms, except you and I shouldn't have them, leafed through a book and decided what they didn't like, ie. pistol grips, flash suppressors, etc.

This is not the end though. Kerry and the rest of the democrats want to expand this made-up definition to include any semi-automatic with a detachable magazine of any capacity and automatic and pump shotguns.

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What exactly is the Clinton assault aeapons
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2004, 03:48:26 PM »
That's just sickening.  Is the whole point of this just to try and decrease crime? Or are liberals all just paranoid about everything? I already know the answer to that second question-- rhetorical, i guess.

The way I see it, my first post still makes these gun bans useless.  Laws dont affect criminals.

When is the assault weapons ban supposed to end?

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gun control
« Reply #8 on: July 29, 2004, 02:31:51 AM »
Gun control is not about guns.