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« on: August 13, 2004, 10:49:15 AM »
Anybody got one? I am at the point that I am ready to go order one but I would like to hear a few opinions first.
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« Reply #1 on: August 13, 2004, 12:38:42 PM »
Can't say as I have one...but I've read about it. I understand it's a nice gun b/c it's a compromise between the .221 Fireball and the Swift. If you have the money, I'd go for it for a varmint gun.
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« Reply #2 on: August 13, 2004, 03:24:11 PM »
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Can't say as I have one...but I've read about it. I understand it's a nice gun b/c it's a compromise between the .221 Fireball and the Swift. If you have the money, I'd go for it for a varmint gun.


A compromise between a .220 Swift and a .221 Fireball???

Maybe a compromise between the .17 Remington(which I adore very greatly) and the .220 Swift

The 17rem,204ruger,and the 220swift are all at/around/beyond 4000fps (give or take) at the muzzle(actually the .204 is a few hundred fps faster than 220swift),I could be wrong but the Fireball is around 3000fps/muzzle but catches up at around 500yards I believe and If I am planning on 500 yard shots I will take the 7mag (May be overpowered for some game but at least I practice with it and can hit with it out to 500yrds.)

Also worth noting is the fact that the .204 Ruger is a .20cal not .22 so also it falls between the 17 and 22.

My uncle has a T/C Pistol with a barrel chambered for .221 Remington Fireball and it shoots great, but for rifles there are better choices(please no one get mad at that just my opinion)

The main purpose I want this Rifle is to carry along with me on the farm and want something that will serve me for coyotes and ground hogs out to 200-300 yards max and also something that wont cost me an arm and a leg because it "WILL" get beat and banged around on tractors and farm trucks and I just dont want to abuse my blue/wood hunting rifles I carry when I am actually hunting. (That's really just an excuse to get a new 700 ADL Synthetic .204 Ruger) but hey "Any reason to buy a gun is a good reason"  :lol:

I am a Remington/Ruger/High Velocity fan to boot  :)
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« Reply #3 on: August 13, 2004, 04:30:17 PM »
Right. I knew that :) . But yea, as I said, if you have the money, I'd go for it. Ruger is making their No.1 in .204 (omg...talking about Ruger in a Remington forum  :roll:).
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« Reply #4 on: August 13, 2004, 06:24:41 PM »
I could buy 2 ADLs for the price of a Ruger #1...or an ADL and a pretty good scope for the price of a Ruger M77, plus for the "abuse" this rifle may receive I think the 700 ADL Synthetic will be my best choice overall...I love my Ruger M77 and actually would buy another over anything but for the price you just can not beat an 700 ADL, probally the biggest bang for the buck for a bolt action available...yeah I know those Savage owners loved hearing that  :)
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2004, 03:22:16 AM »
Now woodsman...a quick question....would you rather have an ADL or a BDL and why?
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2004, 08:37:33 AM »
For the reason I listed above I would take an ADL without a second thought, because as I stated the rifle will be a "Farm" rifle and will be packed along with an axe and chainsaw or two 5 gallon buckets filled with who knows what, or who knows what really....tractors,fields, and pretty rifles don't mix "most" of the time, take one look at the 336 that gets toted around on the farm and you will know why I said an ADL synthetic and also know why I don't want to sink the money I normally would into it.

I don't like Synthetic Stocks for two reasons: 1. Looks 2. When you use a sling for secure shooting a synthetic stock will bow down in the front causing your groups to vary as well as your zero, you can combat this by zeroing the rifle with the sling wrapped around your arm but when in the field its hard to put the "exact" amount of leverage on the stock so zero will be off anyway and the quick to shoulder freehand shots can be way off.

I do like synthetic stocks for 2 reasons: 1. Weight 2. The ability to still look good even with scratches.

I am not saying wood rifles looks bad with scatches, but there is a difference in "scratched while hunting" and "scratched while working"

Now on to my favorite part of the BDL, the hinged plate magazine. I can get away with the fixed box for this rifle because I will keep it loaded(but unchambered) all the time except when I will clean it of course , the 700 .204 hold 5 so keeping 2-3 in it at all times should not wear out the large spring anytime soon and if the fixed magazine was a problem a quick trip to the gunsmith could fix that.

All other times I would take a BDL but I hope I answered your question to your liking, if you are still sketchy on the reason why I would like the ADL over the BDL(for this specific purpose) please leave another post.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2004, 09:06:30 AM »
Well...they sound like great reasons to me...but when you never mentioned the rifle being a farm rifle. You just mentioned it would take a considerable amount of abuse.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2004, 10:57:32 AM »
"The main purpose I want this Rifle is to carry along with me on the farm and want something that will serve me for coyotes and ground hogs out to 200-300 yards max and also something that wont cost me an arm and a leg because it "WILL" get beat and banged around on tractors and farm trucks and I just dont want to abuse my blue/wood hunting rifles I carry when I am actually hunting. (That's really just an excuse to get a new 700 ADL Synthetic .204 Ruger) but hey "Any reason to buy a gun is a good reason"

I cut and pasted this from 6 posts back...see I said it :)
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2004, 02:27:03 PM »
:) I like that, "Any reason to buy a gun is a good reason". I'm gonna have to use that as a tactic more often  :-D
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whrere are ground hogs most abundent
« Reply #10 on: August 15, 2004, 09:02:26 AM »
What states are best for shooting ground hogs? are there seasons or are they vermin like prarrie dogs?

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« Reply #11 on: August 15, 2004, 11:05:55 AM »
I don't know a lot about states other than Kentucky and Tennessee but here groundhog season is open year round and there is no bag limit, as for the best state to hunt in ,I have no idea...ground hog is good eating "IF" prepared right(I like to boil the "grease" out of em and then bake with honey and bbq sauce)...the intestines makes alright catfish bait too.

I have never been prairie dog hunting but I think the groundhog is much bigger, and I would not consider them vermin exactly, they can be around the garden or livestock but they are not entirely "uncontrollable".

 as the definition states:
Vermin : c : animals that at a particular time and place compete (as for food) with humans or domestic animals.  Again they "can" be but the biggest groundhog I ever killed was 5 miles from any livestock or people so that particular groundhog was not vermin.
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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2004, 02:35:44 AM »
Well, RS, here in PA the groundhog are at a sustained level (Not to mention Punxustawney and the "other" famous groundhog). And I can't say as I've heard of anybody eating them. And there is a season here in PA.
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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2004, 03:41:09 AM »
Never heard of anybody eating groundhog???
Try it sometime.
Guess that just another difference between "Yall Northerners" and "Us Southerners"??? :grin:
I do know a lot of locals that will NOT eat em but for the most part at least they tried em.
With the exception of a couple things, why would you hunt something and not eat it....groundhogs are just "oversized tree rats"
If you catch a possum by the tail and feed it corn for a week or so(to get it's system clean) they are good eating too.
I read another post that some people had never even eat frog legs, all I can say is "I never could understand a Yankee"  :)  :-D
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« Reply #14 on: August 16, 2004, 02:52:57 PM »
Now, that, I've heard of  :)  According to an old gentlemen I knew, frog legs tasted "like chicken". I'm gonna have to try some sometime  :grin:
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« Reply #15 on: August 16, 2004, 05:48:11 PM »
You know, according to everyone I ever met, "everything tastes like chicken"and to be honest I am glad that NOTHING tastes like chicken except chicken, because I can NOT stand chicken for some reason......probally just seeing all those chickens peckin'  undigested corn out of horse crap didn't help much when I was growing up :?:  :lol:

Makes a lot of sense huh??? I will eat catfish that I caught on guts but don't like eating chickens because they eat undigested corn. :)  :-D
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« Reply #16 on: August 17, 2004, 03:34:03 AM »
Hey, whatever floats your boat buddy  :)  I'm still gonna have to take a whack at those frog legs sometime  :twisted:
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« Reply #17 on: August 17, 2004, 04:12:19 AM »
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I'm still gonna have to take a whack at those frog legs sometime  :twisted:


Do that, I think you will enjoy them, just remember they taste like frog legs, not chicken. :)
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