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Offline Bogmaster

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JULY 7--QUESTION OF THE DAY--YOUNGSTERS ON THE LINE
« on: July 07, 2004, 05:06:36 AM »
My question today ,deals with new trappers entering into our ranks.
 The average age ,of trappers today is close to 45 years of age.How many of you are taking a youngster along with you?
 Now a lot of the places I trap,are areas not suited for young children.
But in the last year,I was able to take my 3 grandsons,to check a beaver set.Now we were all together in northern mn. for the thanksgiving holiday,it was not a trapping trip.But I did put out some mink cubbies and found 1 bath tub size hole of open water.That open water produced a very nice beaver,and the grand sons got to see a catch.The youngest boy,is now nuts about fur so I hope to get him out this next season for some ratting.
 Also this spring,I was able to take my friends 8 year old daughter on a small boat line for beaver.This young lady has spent endless hours with me in the fur shed,since she was old enough to walk.I have had to provide her with specimens to study--beaver brains and such.
 We took 2 beaver that morning,and she stood in the boat and studied every move I made--she missed nothing.
 She has a trapline of her own for chipmunks(Their resort,is over run with them) which she runs with very good results.
 Are any of you gents,able to take a youngster along with you?If so,what are the results?
 Tom
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Offline Dave Lyons

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« Reply #1 on: July 07, 2004, 05:41:29 AM »
Well I had a wonderful experince with two gentleman (Age 16-17)  They want to know how to snare.  They also wanted to know how to trap but with temps in the single digits I wasn't running any foot holds.

  Anyway they got to go on the day I was picking up my line for the season.  I told them not to expect much but I would show them how to set, where to set a snare.  Well the first stop landed a pair of breeders and the next stop landed a nice adult coyote.  

You know I thought I was crazy catching my first coyote ever but these two guys where just about doing flips in the woods.  One of the coyotes was hip caught and you should have seen the look on there faces when got right next to the coyote.  That was one of the greatest days on my trapline last year.

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« Reply #2 on: July 07, 2004, 06:39:57 AM »
Bog knows my sweet loveable children! My kids have been on traplines since before they could walk! My 9 year old got his first coyotes and otter mink and rats this year .I take numerous new comers out every year young and old and I get as excited as they do when they catch there first critters!yottey

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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2004, 11:36:52 AM »
My son, now 15 started me trapping when he was 11.  My daughter, now 13 is going to be my otter line partner this season.  She used to help skin beavers, rats and ermine and loved it.  I'm hoping she has some sucess so she will keep at it as she gets older.  Even if she doesn't , the lucky young man she hooks up with someday will have an understanding girlfriend/wife if he likes to trap, hunt or fish.

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« Reply #4 on: July 07, 2004, 03:27:13 PM »
Well, my 2,which is always fun,and I also run a small "tourist" line(mainly water traps)where I have brought my kids,their friends,boy scouts,4-H kids,FFA kids,and church youth group.
It results in LOTS of questions,and hopefully a few future trappers.

Actually kids are the reason I started dealing a small amount of trapping supplies,I sell them the stuff I buy,already tuned,dyed and waxed,usually for a couple bucks less than I paid for it,LOL!

Edge

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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2004, 04:59:29 AM »
I taught a lot of young fellows how to trap over the years but unfortunately a vast majority faded away when fur prices faded.  :cry:  I suppose though that many of the students afterwards carried the message that trapping is necessary as a wildlife management tool and that it can be done humanely, so all may not be lost afterall.   :-) Ace

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« Reply #6 on: July 08, 2004, 05:37:43 AM »
Well I have 3 kids with me all the time . I lucked out last year and worked on a pretty big ranch , so while driving around feeding ,or breaking ice, I was allowed to run my line,With the ranches truck and gas. Ok back to the subject my two year old little girl went mostly with me ,  I'll never
forget the time I caught a large tom cat that ran with my drag and finaly
climbed a tree well when we walked up logan spoted the cat and srarted saying HERE KITTY KITTY lol . But all my kids help with everything,
from trap prep to the fur put up , They love plucking birds that they shoot
for eye apeal. They like to make bait for me , I tried to tell them it was alittle loud but they try anyways, I figure the more kids we teach this
art to the longer we might get to trap.
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« Reply #7 on: July 08, 2004, 06:59:20 AM »
It sound like you all are lucky all I get from my grandaughters is ick and yuck, but I have helped a couple of high school aged local boys with snareing yotes, and I got a lot of satifaction from doing so. Jeff

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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2004, 06:27:10 PM »
I take my kids with as much as possible.  

Nothing beats watching their eyes light when making a catch.

The best pictures that I have are of my kids and a days catch.  Will cherish them forever.

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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2004, 09:20:42 PM »
Howdy Ya'll,   I have been buying a few new {used} traps, gardening, working in the old knife shop, simmering a few deer heads for friends, you know cleaning them up,  and trying to get back in shape after my ordeal...   The question about taking younger folks out on the trail and the trapline, was an appropriate one.  Thank you Mr. Bog.
          I had a girlfriend who had a kid, Gary.  This was back 20 years ago.
He was like in elementary school and was just a kid. He would go with me in the morning and check my traps and  hunt at night with my hounds.  Come on Gary!   Keep up!    I remember  him being a kid, just looking at everything and unable to concentrate on anything for more than a few seconds.
Without even thinking about him learning anything, I just automatically told him how to watch trails in the late winter, when the trails are beat down and fairly used, but before the new spring grasses obscured the trails.
To be aware of where the critters moved.
We would talk about what hunters and trappers talk about, and enjoy the line.  One day we were checking our sets at what now is the Lancaster golf course.  {Texas}   A big negro was fishing on the shore of a little pond, and I went up to pass the time with him us being done with the line for the day.  Doing any good?  I said.                                                                   I don't remember what he said, but talk got around to trapping and I told Gary to "go get that thing we caught this morning."  I visited with the guy who was an alright guy just devoid of woods knowledge, not his fault, I guess no one took him hunting when he was young?
 Till finally... [Gary had wrestled the 50Lb Beaver out of the truck and drug and carried it over to show it off.]

I was talking to the guy and just kinda playing down the vibes so the Beaver would have the best effect.  Gary came up to where we were and dropped the Beaver right at this guys feet! It rolled to a stop right at this guys feet.  He stood up and I wish I had a picture of the look on his face!  It was worth a barrel of whiskey!
He jumped to his feet with a look on his face that was pure shock!
"What is that thing?"
"Well, what do you think it is?"  I looked at Gary and my expression said {don't tell him}
 Aw come on you know what that is.
His head was going back and forth in a stunned and totally non comprending manner.
"What is that thing?"
 I said , are you blind?  Look at it!
 The guy was totally weirded out,  his eyes were locked on the Beaver.
His mouth was open and all he could think of was, what is that thing?
 Come on dude!  Where are you from?}                                                  FinallyI told him,                                                                                      O. K.   It is a fresh water seal.
"What!!!"
 Oh yeah they come up the trinity river every year this time to breed.
Gary was smiling.
The negros eyes were fixed on the Beave and never left it.
His mouth was hanging open and his head still shook back and forth trying to comprehend this strange sight.
Sure,  that is why you have never seen one, they live out in the gulf and only come up stream in the winter.
See all that fat, that is how they can stand the cold in the fresh water shallow ponds.
Oh yeah we get several every winter.
 Good eating they are.

                  I said well, we had beter git. and grabbed the Beaver and walked back to the truck.
              As it turned out the big guy who we had been kidding is a sherriff's deputy, Ivan Jackson, and 15 years later ended up saving my life ... well.. sort of but that is another story.

                                                                         Knife.
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« Reply #10 on: July 18, 2004, 04:12:02 PM »
Oh!  I forgot,  All this occured back in the late 80's, when Gary was 10 years old.  Now 20 years later he is a plumber for Buckner plumbing,
Drives around in a company truck,  & pulls down 20.30.  an hour.
I have on my wall a picture of old Gary and his partner Todd,                    kneeling, and in front of them a big Bobcat, 9 Coyote, three Fox,  all got in one night! Calling!
Actually they won $800.00 to boot, as this was a calling contest!
Old Gary is a real killer! And yes,  it does make me proud, thank you.
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« Reply #11 on: August 21, 2004, 11:50:41 AM »
I suppose I am the youngster on this trapline (a mere 21).  One of my fondest memories is of my grandfather taking me out to remove a nuisance beaver from his backyard.  I remember the fear I had as the beaver lunged at him and the awe as he clubbed it with the axe handle I had carried out for him.  The feeling that I'd become a part of hstory (even though in retrospect, it is n't that old of a history) as he added the tail to the rows of them he had placed on the side of the barn since he'd built it over a lifetime ago (at least my lifetime).  I don't regret many things in life, but one of the few things I do regret is not spending more time learning the line from my grandfather.

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« Reply #12 on: August 22, 2004, 06:39:06 PM »
I take kids,junior high or high school age if they ask me.I've taught several, to trap,a couple on water animals and several on canines.I've given all my Montgomery 1 1/2's away with stakes,lure,urine,bait,pan covers,a stretcher or 2 etc to a couple of young guys to get them started on Fox.Gave all my Montgomery #2's away with enough stakes and stuff to run a line for their first season.Gave them an education,the best I could,took them on my line then helped them set up their lines.Tried to stress safety and ethics.One is married with kids of his own and he's a coyote addict like me.
I love the smell of coyote gland lure early in the morning.It smells like victory!!

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« Reply #13 on: August 23, 2004, 07:18:53 AM »
I have taken many kids and young adults on the line. Instructed about 6 and only 1 has kept trapping. All keep in touch and seem to keep an interest. Nobody wants to go this year.

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« Reply #14 on: August 25, 2004, 06:44:55 AM »
I am saddened to realize that in some areas trappping is dieing out due to the lack of interest by younger generations i do not want to see trapping become a thing of the past so i pray anyone who can get anyone young involved in trapping do it I am 16 years old and trap my own line and try to recruit my friends into trapping to try to get more younger generations involved i plan on teaching my kids when i have them the ways of trapping thank you everyone who has taken a child or young adult trapping it is a gift to all of us
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