Author Topic: 22 target pistol (Read 1847 times)

Jim n Iowa · « **on:** August 24, 2004, 04:00:59 PM »

I have a Ruger MK1 tapered target model. When you shoot it the pins start out of the rear sight, the front sight is a joke. The rear sight is adjustable, and over all its accurate. It is a pain in the a?? to reassemble after cleaning. I would really like to find a 6+ inch revolver like a S&W K-22 or a Trappers model 9 shot, top break, who ever made them H&R or Iver Johnson. I need to practice the squeeze on a double action. Any ideas?
Jim

Tacoma · « **Reply #1 on:** August 25, 2004, 03:52:03 PM »

First, for your ruger, try putting a little blue locktite on those pins before reinstalling. An yes, they ARE a PIA to strip but not as bad if you practice it a few times. ( There is a RugerMK II forum on the net where pics/instructions are posted. Sorry,the URL is on my other computer.)
As far as a revolver, I have a H&R 999 (breakopen lemon squeezer) and while it's a cool revolver for looks and function, I'd be hard pressed to recommend one as a primary shooter. The sights are 3x worse for loosening and adjusting than any MK I. Accuracy is also "plinking class. " Partly because the triggers on any H&R handgun I've ever tried/owned was marginal. There are others but IMHO, get a S&W, 6" K-22/ mod 17/617 hands down. ( I've got 4 :-) The S&W's are just awsome shooters and top quality that will last a lifetime. They can be had for just a few $ more than a nice 999. You'll never regret buying (or loose serious $ on) S&W quality.
Also, while the extra shots are nice, a little on line research will tell you that 6 shot is the way to go if you want a smooth DA to practice with.
hth

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #2 on:** August 27, 2004, 03:40:34 PM »

I went to the S&M web sight, and they have nothing like a K-22. What is close in a 22 lr has a big ticket. I would not buy stock in this company till they get over it.. To buy a qulity 22 revolver targert grade may not be possible. For me I guess I will reload 38 sp 110 gr light and practice with my trooper 357.
Jim

pastorp · « **Reply #3 on:** August 28, 2004, 08:14:05 PM »

Jim in Iowa, You should be able to buy a older S&W model 17, 6", blued gun in the $250.00 to $350.00 range. About 2 years ago I bought a shooter grade one that was tight, but with some blue wear for $200.00. Also the ruger SP101 would be a good canidate for what you want. They are also about $250.00 for a good used one. I agree that the H&R would not hold up to a high volume of shooting like the smith or ruger would. Jim don't give up , just keep looking and hold out for what you want. There is a forum dedicated to S&W guns that has a classified section that would be a good source. www.smith-wessonforum.com I believe. Also your local shooting range, check with some of the older shooters. In there day K-22's were very popular, and one of them may have one they would sell. Hope this info helps and good luck in your search. Byron

Old Griz · « **Reply #4 on:** August 28, 2004, 10:40:10 PM »

:cb2: Jim, I know the sticker shock of a new S&W 617 is rough, but I promise--if you save up and get one you will never be sorry you did. It is the best DA .22 revolver on the market. Believe it or not, it is worth the money. It is really accurate and I have taken more squirrels with mine than with any other gun I own, and that includes my two .22 rifles. (But then I'd rather hunt with a handgun any day!)

If you just can't see paying that much for a .22, I'll throw out two alternatives. One is the Ruger SP101 (like pastorp suggested). The longest barrel it comes in is a 4" but it is a really fun plinker. Like the S&W 617 it is built on a .357 frame and will last for several generations. The other is also a Ruger, the SA .22 Bisley. If you are used to shooting DA revolvers, you'll like the longer Bisley grip. It has the longer barrel, 6.5", you are looking for, and it is a great way to ease into SA shooting. However, I must warn you. Once you get a SA .22, there is no way to stop the SA bug once you've been bitten. You will have to get another in a larger caliber. And then another . . . and another . . . and another . . . . :eek:

Tacoma · « **Reply #5 on:** August 29, 2004, 10:58:58 AM »

Have to agree with Old Griz and pastorP, I've been through a few inferior .22 revolvers before I realzed I was loosing $ on every "upgrade". Your right, the new 617's are in the $500 range when new. $375-$400 will find you a used one. However, Watch the gun auction sites /local shops. You should be able to find a mod 17 ( blued, no underlug, not the newerfull lugged SS 617) for under $300 . ( I've bought 2 for less and my local shop has one in 95% now for $300 even.) . You'll likely never regret or outgrow a 17 as long as you have interest in shooting.

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #6 on:** August 29, 2004, 01:45:55 PM »

Thanks for the replys. I can't get much out of the mk 1 target, but a retail of $700+ for a 22 617 is mind boggling to me. I really want the DA to squeeze, to practice on, rather than the single action. Are the 617 drilled for scopes? May just put that together, as I saw another geezer out at the range shooting a scoped Ruger mk2.
Jim

Old Griz · « **Reply #7 on:** August 29, 2004, 06:56:13 PM »

:cb2: Jim, don't confuse the suggested retail price you see on the web site with the real street price. Around here a new 617 goes for about $489. That's still steep for a .22, but not when you consider in that you are getting a real S&W K-frame revolver built to handle .357 mag. It is a real solid gun. And a used one is still a fine S&W handgun, and better than most other .22 revolvers new. A friend of mine picked up a K22 (the grandaddy of the 617) in 90% condition, and it is really a great shootin gun.

Oh, and by the way, yes the new ones are drilled for the scope mount. I have a scope on mine.

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #8 on:** August 30, 2004, 12:56:34 PM »

Ok
You fellows have made a believer out of me. I just came from Sheels and ordered a 617 6" 10 shot and paid $520. I thought about the Ruger ss hunter which could be bought about $ 50 less. I have owned Smiths before in 44 mag, and found them to a ok gun, some one would always make an offer I could not refuse. Today I have Rugers and I am not selling them. Thanks for your input.
Jim

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #9 on:** August 31, 2004, 01:52:36 PM »

Old Griz
What did you use for your scope set up on the 617. I have a 2x Nikon that for me is hard to quickly align my head to it for hunting, but could be ok for this gun.
Jim

Old Griz · « **Reply #10 on:** August 31, 2004, 04:17:32 PM »

:cb2: It's a Weaver base and rings with a Tasco 1.25x4 scope. I use the low end for hunting, and the high end when at the range. I don't know the official eye relief, but when I have both arms extended I have a full picture. The scope I had on my .44 made me hold the gun closer to my body and bend my arms slightly, so I switched to a red dot. I haven't used that combination hunting yet--still looking for the best shooting .44 load. But this .22 set up has worked really well.

I've had good results with Federal Classics, CCI Small Game Loads, CCI Standard Velocity, CCI Blazers, and Winchester Wildcats. The slower bullets seem to be the most accurate. I also bought a .22 Hollow Pointer from E.A. Brown which makes any .22 round that shoots well out of your gun a hollow point (if that's what you want). www.eabco.com/holoptr.html

As for alignment, all I can say is practice. I have to get used to it again every year because I don't normally shoot with a scoped gun until hunting season rolls around. A couple of days at the range and a few out in the woods before hand really pays off.

You're gonna love that new S&W! Like you I have always been a Ruger or Colt man when buying .44s, but I do love my Smith K-frames in .38/.357 and of course, .22.

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #11 on:** September 01, 2004, 11:53:51 AM »

I have several bricks of old 22 lr Like rem. Kleenbore in the green box, probably as old as I. I will try out some new ammo. Another ? is there a muzzle protector to be used when cleaning?
Jim

magooch · « **Reply #12 on:** September 01, 2004, 04:54:14 PM »

Quote from: Jim n Iowa

I have several bricks of old 22 lr Like rem. Kleenbore in the green box, probably as old as I. I will try out some new ammo. Another ? is there a muzzle protector to be used when cleaning?
Jim

Hey Jim, I use a bore snake to clean all of my .22s, including my K-22. It's quick, easy and you can do it from right direction.

Congratulations on the new iron.

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #13 on:** September 04, 2004, 02:48:11 PM »

What do you guys use for a holster or carry for this piece? I may want to carry in the field on varmints. I tend to go for Bianch, or Safariland, there websights show no hunting or on the belt carry for a 617. I am not about to blow my brains on on a high ticket 22 and put it in a sack.
Jim

Old Griz · « **Reply #14 on:** September 04, 2004, 05:18:22 PM »

:cb2: I use a Hunter 68-100 for a scoped revolver. Works great and won't break the bank. Have one for my .22 and another for my .44.
www.huntercompany.com/hunter.html

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #15 on:** September 14, 2004, 06:48:23 PM »

Picked up my 617 today, and a variety of ammo, and boar snakes. I would like better sights (target type) or get the snow pac out for the front. It looks to be all you board members have told me, and I thank you. I am surprised on the warranty, its for one year. Is this now a common practice? I think my other firearms are better, some lifetime.
Jim

Tacoma · « **Reply #16 on:** September 16, 2004, 03:49:51 AM »

S&W is known for their great warranty support. Where did you hear /see one year? website still states :
.1. Lifetime Service Policy
We will repair any defect in material or workmanship without charge to the original purchaser for as long as you own the handgun.

2. Expedited 911 Priority Service
This service is available in the event emergency repairs are needed by law enforcement personnel. This service allows you to call upon one of our customer service representatives who will assist you in expediting the prompt repair and return of your handgun.

3. Easy Access Customer Service
Our customer service representatives are available to assist your every need.

Telephone:

1-800-331-0852, (USA)
8:00a.m. - 8:00p.m. Eastern Standard Time, Monday-Friday

http://www.swcustomersupport.vista.com/contentbuilder/layout.php3?contentPath=content/00/01/31/06/03/userdirectory39.content

FWIW, I have a 2nd hand 686 that needs 'warranty' work and they told me to send it in . They even pay the shipping.

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #17 on:** September 16, 2004, 05:51:18 AM »

On page 28 of the owners manual, second paragraph states, second sentence "Any such defects of which Smith & Wesson receives written notice with in one year from date of purchase by original owner will be remedied by Smith & Wesson and so on"
However had I read further it is stated that after the warranty has expired they will repair any defects provided you sent in the registration card with in 30 days of purchase. They refer to it as Extended Service Policy.
Jim

Tacoma · « **Reply #18 on:** September 16, 2004, 01:12:57 PM »

Well not that your likely to need it but it would be worth calling the 1800# above and see what they say.

Jim n Iowa · « **Reply #19 on:** September 17, 2004, 01:53:41 PM »

Not to make this a long thread but need advice on target sights for the 617. I am not planning on scoping it, and want to practice on the 25 yd targets off hand.
Jim

fyrepowrx · « **Reply #20 on:** September 18, 2004, 07:19:57 AM »

Get a K-22, ignore the price, its worth it. i got 4 in long rifle, and 2 in mag, and have been happy to get each. They outshoot me, never miss a beat, and will last several lifetimes. would have to say if i owned only one it would be my sligtly-tuned-up 6" 10-shot stainless 617. ya cant go wrong with a K-22.